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Just to be clear: do you personally accept Vatican II ‘in the light of Tradition’ and the New Mass as ‘legitimately promulgated’? These are the exact phrases Bishop Fellay agreed to in the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration, which now binds the Neo-SSPX.
Here's your problem...these phrases "legitimately promulgated" and "in the light of Tradition" are not theological statements, but legal ones.  So there's gray area there, depending on what the new-sspx means by these terms.

One could argue:
1.  Was the new mass legitimately promulgated?  Yes, Paul6 promulgated the apostolic constitution (legal docuмent) which created the new mass.  This is a fact of history.  If you believe Paul6 was legitimately the pope, then his docuмent was legitimately promulgated (i.e. the docuмent was legally issued).

Being legitimately promulgated has nothing to do with whether the new mass is valid, or licit or moral.  Promulgation just has to do with a legal question.  And, yes, the docuмent which Paul6 issued, is legal.  It's a very strict question, with a very strict answer.

2.  Accepting V2 'in the light of Tradition'.  Well, new-rome has already said that the new-sspx is allowed to QUESTION certain parts of V2.  So this "acceptance" is not unconditional and 100%.  It's just not.

Is the new-sspx playing word games, to condition the faithful and to propagandize towards a FULLER agreement with new-rome in the future?  Absolutely.  But as of now, nothing they have agreed to is heretical.  And if it's not heretical, then you can't 'red light' them.
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:pray::pray::pray: What a terrible tragedy. And yet how brave of the brother jumping in to save the other! We will certainly keep them and their families in our family rosary.
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What a terrible thing to happen when getting together for a wedding... 😣

Prayers for the young men and their families. :pray:

Please let us know if you hear any updates as to how they are doing.
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This is not a reach. The Neo-SSPX submitted the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration, accepting Vatican II “in the light of Tradition” and the New Mass as “legitimately promulgated.” That is formal submission to Modernist Rome. Full indult status is irrelevant. They have already accepted the poisoned root. +Archbishop Lefebvre refused that path entirely because he refused to betray Christ the King.
If you're arguing to 'red light' every new-sspx chapel and priest, i'd say you're overreacting.  But now that we know you follow Fr Hewko, the overreaction makes sense.
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Good Fr. Rusak!

Fr. Rusak had also daringly posted a strongly critical commentary under his own name on The Angelus book site's comment section regarding a fellow SSPX priest's notorious book.  The book was Fr. Robinson's The Realist Guide to Religion and Science. In spite of the politeness, not to mention the objective correctness of the commentary, it was removed from the site within a matter of days while I think all the "cheerleading" commentaries were left up.
From an old CathInfo thread.
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/sspx-priest-publicly-smashes-fr-paul-robinson's-(sspx)-book/
"...
Failure to consider all the evidence
Father Gerard Rusak, FSSPX, Nov 2018

While Father Robinson excels on philosophical points in the first six chapters of his book (1 star), he accepts the unproven hypotheses of the Big Bang (with its long ages needed for evolution) and he rashly embraces heliocentrism. Meanwhile, he brushes aside those who do not agree with him using insufficient arguments (see below). His interpretation of the Bible is more in accord with a liberal interpretation of Vatican II's Dei Verbum #11 rather than with the traditional teaching of the Church on the inerrant nature of Holy Scripture. This allows him to pick and choose among facts related in the book of Genesis and elsewhere in the Bible. He also ignores the longstanding the decrees of the Church against Galileo and the unanimous teaching of the Fathers of the Church these same questions. On these last issues, his insufficient arguments have been completely refuted by a book by Robert Sungenis: "Scientific Heresies and Their Effect on the Church" (564 pages).

I thank the Angelus Press in advance for posting this review and request them to add to their list of books the above book of Robert Sungenis so that both sides of the question may be heard. Or should they not wish to do so, to withdraw Father Robinson's book from sale from this their website.
I may add that I know other SSPX priests and faithful like myself who are shocked at the publication of this book for at least some if not all, of the above reasons.
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The now NeoSSPX has been under Conciliar Rome since the 2012 Doctrinal Declaration. That docuмent inserted the heresies of Vatican II “in the light of Tradition” directly into the Society’s framework. To call this merely a danger is an understatement. It is a formal compromise with modernist Rome. Souls are not safe where such compromise is treated as acceptable. No one is judging interior guilt, but the objective danger is grave. This is not private opinion. It is docuмented fact, and it has eternal consequences.
This is a reach.  If the new-sspx was part of new-rome, then they'd be fully indult.  But they aren't (yet).  They have not fully accepted V2 or the new mass.
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He probably can't do that, in that the Constitution mandates a census every ten years.  That said, he could maintain that the 2020 census was flawed and inaccurate, and that his proposed census is not a new one, but rather a do-over of the 2020 census.  Whether a court would uphold that or not would depend upon the thinking of the particular judge, or in the case of SCOTUS, that of a majority of the justices.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/07/trump-new-census-order-constitution-text
I'm betting the argument is this:  The Constitution requires a census every 10 years.  But does it forbid us from doing an additional one?  
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He probably can't do that, in that the Constitution mandates a census every ten years.  That said, he could maintain that the 2020 census was flawed and inaccurate, and that his proposed census is not a new one, but rather a do-over of the 2020 census.  Whether a court would uphold that or not would depend upon the thinking of the particular judge, or in the case of SCOTUS, that of a majority of the justices.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/07/trump-new-census-order-constitution-text
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