How did you make out on the 14th?

Here's a book I'm currently reading (and it's embarrassing to admit that I never read it before) that I know can help you. It's certainly helping me bigtime, and I know it's helped many others.


Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence

You can also find a free pdf to download from the Internet Archive.

Great book.

Still waiting for the May 14th appointment to find out about my liver tests.

How did you make out on the 14th? 

Here's a book I'm currently reading (and it's embarrassing to admit that I never read it before) that I know can help you. It's certainly helping me bigtime, and I know it's helped many others. 


Trustful Surrender to Divine Providence

You can also find a free pdf to download from the Internet Archive.

Attraction Market Value? Now you have said the quiet part out loud. The title of this thread should be "sɛҳuąƖ Attraction." Maybe we need a thread on "When does sɛҳuąƖ attraction and oogling females veer into sinful behavior?"

Catholic men, in spite of the human tendency to fall into sin by objectifying women in terms of their sɛҳuąƖ attraction, try to rise above focusing on the Attraction Market Value of a woman. Instead, Catholic men bring to mind their wives, mothers, sisters and other females who they know would not want to be leered at and do their best to avert their eyes, especially when immodest dress is what is increading the Attraction Market Value.

How many non-Catholics who are interested in becomming Catholic see a thread like this and are disgusted by the immature blathering about sɛҳuąƖ attraction. They may think "What the heck; I heard tradition was true Catholiocism, but these people are low lifes."

I don't care about optics. That kind of thinking leads to the neo-SSPX, compromise with the World and Vatican II, and hiring corporate branding agencies.

You are totally going off-base here into distraction land. What are you talking about sinful behavior in this context? Define your terms. I won't accept imprecise or vague terms like "ogling". This isn't CNN and we aren't going to call people nebulous terms like "racist". What does that even mean? You tell us.

Are we talking about immoral speech? Sins of thought? Seeking fornication? Impure actions? Self abuse? Let's be specific.

Like with other communist propaganda, like "hate crime", there are already laws against assault, murder, etc. We don't need specific laws against "hate crimes". And are some crimes "love crimes"? When a white man breaks a bottle over a white man's head, is it done out of love?

Matthew

SMV or sɛҳuąƖ Market Value is the overall score or value a man or woman has in the dating (or for Catholics, Marriage) market.

We're not talking about value before God, or intrinsic value. We're talking how about VALUED or SOUGHT AFTER they are. It's about parity or equality in the relationship, which is absolutely critical if you want a STABLE lasting marriage. You don't want one spouse to realize 1 year into the marriage that he or she could have done MUCH better by marrying just about anyone else.

All things being equal:
Healthy? More value. Unhealthy? Less value.
Intelligent? More value. Slower? Less value.
Younger? More value. Older? Less value.
Virgin? More value. High body count? Less value.

And we each score these differently, that's the thing. Some score smoking/nonsmoking, tattoos/no tattoos, etc.

And so on. You get the idea.

The point is, everyone has plusses and minuses, and those total scores should ROUGHLY line up, or the marriage is doomed to collapse. An ugly 30 year old sailor $20,000 in debt isn't a good match for an intelligent, beautiful 18 year old virgin with a great education. If he got so lucky in marriage, he better enjoy it because it won't last.

Men:  When you posted in those threads, what did you see as the woman's role in this particular discussion?  What were you looking to get from them?  Were you looking to get anything from them?  Did you think they could provide you with advice?  life experiences?  I'm trying to figure out what women could say that would be helpful to you.  And if you weren't looking for any advice/help, etc from them, then why discuss it in the co-ed room at all?

Good question.

I was asking this question myself this morning, as I spent way too much time on this today.
But for an answer to that question, go back to the OP. It had nothing to do with the current topic. In short, the thread was derailed. So it kind of snuck up, flew under the radar, etc.

The member (I don't know who) that brought up the topic of marriage age had no ability to move the thread at that point. He simply replied to an existing thread, and thereby derailed it.