The great apostacy.  

By FBI do you mean the Full Blooded Italians or the gov'mint?

Fr., now Bp. Zendejas, has mass not in NYC, but about 70 miles from there in Connecticut.  If you don't drive, or have someone to drive you, there's no public transportation to reasonably reach his location.  

As to exact times, places, he doesn't use Internet at all. It seems information is by word of mouth amongst those in the know.  I believe this may be because his base is very close to the Ridgefield SSPX priory where he was prior for many years.  

Bp. Zendejas left the SSPX in 2014 and returned to Connecticut.  When this hapoened, a large number of people left Ridgefield.  I've rumors of harassment, threats, on-line bullying, vandalism, and children being expelled from the SSPX school as a result of a parent attending Fr. Zendejas' Mass.  For this reason, the Connecticut mass center is kept secretive.  I believe Fr. also says Mass at Matthew, the site owner's chapel where things are considerably more open.  Unfortunately, Texas is a bit far for New Yorkers. 

 

His Grace Archbishop Lefebvre, from the link given earlier: "Consequently, the Society of St. Pius X, its priests, brothers, sisters, and oblates, cannot tolerate among its members those who refuse to pray for the Pope or affirm that the Novus Ordo Missae is per se invalid." To drop the name of the Pope from the Canon and then to declare this to others proudly is nothing less than public schism.

I gave a certain someone 5 clear proofs that the SSPX was not in schism, all from Rome and the authorities of the Church. Yet he dishonestly ignored it altogether, then repeated his false allegations for the umpteenth time as if they had not been answered before.

As a layman, now 61 years later into your alleged "material vacancy", you can raise doubts with the Bishops and Cardinals. You can write to them or go and visit them in person. You're not a schismatic in doing so. If they all tell you Pope Francis is Pope, then he is.

The question, Ladislaus, is whether you are willing and able to retract your opinion and submit to the judgment of the Church.

It is Church Teaching that the Church is infallible in identifying the man who holds the office of the Pope. You reject Her judgment.

Great response here.  XavierSem understands the papacy.  Thanks for taking the time to explain something so simple and yet so grossly misunderstood by Sedes today Xavier.  I am relatively new to this forum so I don't know what your positions are but you definitely grabbed my attention with this response. Thank you.

Sure, Climacus, happy to help. The sedes have definitely got it wrong, and I'll give you a simple means to be assured 61 year svism is not only wrong but in fact heretical to hold. Vatican I defined the Pope's Primacy of Jurisdiction and even the "last Pope" of the sedevacantists taught that only the Pope can grant ordinary jurisdiction to a Bishop. But a Bishop is generally consecrated around 35 years of age and resigns around 75. Now, it is defined dogma and de fide that there must always be Ordinaries in the Church. This is a requirement of Apostolicity, as is explained in the CE and numerous other sources. Therefore, even to stretch it to 10 or 15 more years, 50-55 years of an alleged interregnum is an absolute impossibility.

The Church will lose the power of jurisdiction itself if the See of Peter is even "materially vacant" for that long. So, not possible.

You will never find in a pre-Vatican II theology manual the claim of the sedeprivationists that the Pope can have a "material office". What the books say is that the Power of Orders is the Matter of Apostolic Succession. The Power of Jurisdiction is the Form of Apostolic Succession. And Jurisdiction is not again composed of matter and form. For an analogy, in man, the body is the matter and the soul is the form. But the soul is not composite, but is simple in comparison with the body, as St. Thomas teaches.

Let me quote Fr. Gueranger on (1) the visible nature of the Church and the Hierarchy, (2) the visible way in which the power of jurisdiction devolves from the Chair of St. Peter to the Bishops. "Thus it is that the divine Founder of the Church, who willed that she should be a city seated on a mountain, gave her visibility; it was an essential requisite; for since all were called to enter her pale, all must be able to see her. But He was not satisfied with this. He moreover willed that the spiritual power exercised by her pastors should come from a visible source, so that the faithful might have a sure means of verifying the claims of those who were to guide them in His name. Our Lord (we say it reverently) owed this to us; for, on the last day, He will not receive us as His children, unless we shall have been members of His Church, and have lived in union with Him by the ministry of pastors lawfully constituted." Let the sedevacantist take note.

The way forward for Traditional Catholics imho looking for the right traditional Catholic position is that of SSPX and Indult Traditionalists continuing to uphold Tradition and Catholic orthodoxy in canonical communion with Rome. Certainly, after July 2007 and Summorum Pontificum correcting some past injustices, there is in my opinion no further need to do otherwise. And even in the last 10 years, that approach has borne some fruit, and it holds great promise of bearing much more fruit in the decades to come, especially if Traditionalists take the right steps now, work together in unity in truth and love, in the path that His Excellency Bp. Fellay and Fr. Pagliarani have charted out for us. Catholic Tradition is the future. But in the Church and for the Church, with the Pope's full authorization, so that the Society itself acts as the Church.