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« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 02:32:05 AM »If you include political marriages this number increases to 40% 14 and under.Male Saints
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Compared to the modern Era
So you can see that most of the younger marriages for the Saints is bias. More in the next post.
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Men’s Marriage Ages (estimated from prior lists, e.g., Joseph, Malcolm III, as few male saints are married):
14 and under: ~0% (men rarely married this young).
15–16: ~5% (e.g., Bolesław V ~13–15, rare).
17–18: ~10% (young noblemen in political marriages).
19–20: ~15% (e.g., Henry I ~20–25).
21–25: ~30% (common, e.g., Aquila ~20–30).
26–30: ~25% (e.g., Denis ~20–22, older commoners).
30+: ~15% (e.g., Malcolm III ~35–40, Joseph ~20–40).
Note: Men’s data is speculative, as most married saints are women, and husbands’ ages (e.g., Joseph, Publius) are inferred from norms (men typically 20–40).
European Marriage Ages (500 BC–2025)
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Women:
Pre-Christian (500 BC–AD 300): Elite 12–16, commoners 15–20 (Roman minimum 12, Greek ~14–18).
Early Christian (300–1000): Elite 12–16, commoners 15–18 (canon law minimum 12).
Medieval (1000–1500): Nobles 12–16, commoners 15–20.
Early Modern (1500–1800): Nobles 14–18, commoners 18–25 (mean ~20–22, Western Europe).
Modern (1800–1900): 20–25 (mean ~22–24).
Contemporary (1900–2025): 22–26 (1900–1950), 28–32 (2000–2025, Eurostat 2023).
Men:
Pre-Christian: 20–35 (Roman elite ~25–40, Greek ~25–35).
Early Christian: 20–30 (elite older, ~25–40).
Medieval: Nobles 20–30, commoners 20–25.
Early Modern: 25–35 (mean ~25–30, Western Europe).
Modern: 25–30 (mean ~25–28).
Contemporary: 25–30 (1900–1950), 30–35 (2000–2025).

Key Points
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Saints’ Women vs. European Women: Saints’ 65% under 16 aligns with elite early marriages (12–16) in pre-1500 periods but diverges from commoner later marriages (15–25) and modern/contemporary norms (20–32). Canonization favored young, pious, or noble women (e.g., Rita, Hedwig), skewing early.
Saints’ Men vs. European Men: Saints’ men (~50–60% 21–30, 15% 30+) align with European men (20–35) across periods, as men married older. However, data is limited, and saints’ men (e.g., Malcolm III) often reflect elite, older husbands.
Bias: The Church prioritized young, martyred, or elite women, overrepresenting early marriages (65% ≤16) and underrepresenting later ones (10.42% >20), unlike European women’s broader range. Men’s ages are less biased but sparsely docuмented.
Modern Disconnect: Saints’ data (pre-1900) is irrelevant to 1900–2025, where women marry at 28–32 and men at 30–35, reflecting education and economic shifts absent in saints’ narratives.
However it seems suspect that after 1500 the AI gave me broad range of 18-25
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saints’ marriage ages for women align closely with European women’s ages before 1500, with significant divergence after 1500 due to rising marriage ages in Europe, particularly in the early modern and modern periods. The previous grouping of 18–25 in European data (e.g., 18–25 for commoners in 1500–1800) may obscure year-by-year variations. To address your request, I’ll break down the 18–25 age range into individual years (18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25) for both Roman Catholic saints canonized before Pope Pius XII’s death (October 9, 1958) and European women across history (500 BC–2025). I’ll provide percentages for each age relative to total saints and total married saints, and estimate European women’s marriage age distributions year by year within this range. The saints’ data includes political marriages but excludes refusals or unconsummated betrothals. I’ll use prior lists, hagiography, the Roman Martyrology, and historical demographic studies (e.g., Hajnal, Eurostat, web sources like), focusing on post-1500 divergence and refining the granularity of the 18–25 range.
I had to do a little more prompting but I finally got the data and graph I wanted to see.
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Saints’ Marriage Ages (Canonized Before 1958)
Total Saints: ~3,000.
Married Saints: ~240 (8%).
Women’s Marriage Ages (Recap and Expansion):
Prior data:
14 and under: 40.00% of married saints (96/240), 3.20% of total saints.
15–16: 25.00% (60/240), 2.00%.
17–18: 15.00% (36/240), 1.20%.
19–20: 10.00% (24/240), 0.80%.
21–25: 6.00% (14/240), 0.47%.
26–30: 4.00% (9/240), 0.30%.
30+: 0.42% (1/240), 0.03%.
Year-by-Year Breakdown (12–40): Exact ages are rarely recorded, so I’ll interpolate based on prior lists (e.g., Rita ~12–14, Monica ~17–18) and norms (early marriages dominate). For 12–14, 15–16, etc., I’ll distribute percentages within ranges, tapering off for 26–40 due to rarity:
12: ~10% (24/240, part of 14 and under).
13: ~15% (36/240).
14: ~15% (36/240).
15: ~12.5% (30/240, part of 15–16).
16: ~12.5% (30/240).
17: ~7% (16.8/240, part of 17–18).
18: ~8% (19.2/240).
19: ~5% (12/240, part of 19–20).
20: ~5% (12/240).
21–25: ~1.2% each (2.8/240 per year, total 6%).
26–30: ~0.8% each (1.8/240 per year, total 4%).
31–40: ~0.042% each (0.1/240 per year, total ~0.42%, as only ~1 saint marries post-30, e.g., speculative outlier).

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Skew: 65% wed at 16 or younger (40% ≤14, 25% 15–16), reflecting elite and early Christian/medieval norms (e.g., Hedwig ~12–15). Ages 18–40 are only ~31% of married saints, with 26–40 extremely rare.European Women’s Marriage Ages (500 BC–2025)
Bias: Canonization favored young, pious, or noble women, reducing representation of later marriages (e.g., only Monica ~17–18 in 18–25).
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I’ll estimate year-by-year percentages for ages 12–40, interpolating from mean ages and distributions. Data varies by period, class, and region (Western vs. Southern Europe).Look at this graph, isn't it beautiful? Make sure you boyos save it, because I will NEVER let you down.
1. Pre-Christian Europe (500 BC–AD 300)
Mean: Elite 12–16, commoners 15–20 (~15–17).
12–40 Breakdown:
12–14: 10% each (30% total, elite focus).
15–16: 15% each (30%).
17–18: 10% each (20%).
19–20: 5% each (10%).
21–25: 2% each (10%).
26–40: 0.2% each (3% total, rare).
2. Early Christian Europe (AD 300–1000)
Mean: Elite 12–16, commoners 15–18 (~15–17).
12–40 Breakdown:
12–14: 10% each (30%).
15–16: 15% each (30%).
17–18: 12% each (24%).
19–20: 5% each (10%).
21–25: 2% each (10%).
26–40: 0.2% each (3%).
3. Medieval Europe (1000–1500)
Mean: Nobles 12–16, commoners 15–20 (~16–18).
12–40 Breakdown:
12–14: 8% each (24%, nobles).
15–16: 12% each (24%).
17–18: 10% each (20%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 3% each (15%).
26–40: 0.1% each (1.5%).
4. Early Modern Europe (1500–1800)
Mean: Nobles 14–18, commoners 18–25 (~20–22 Western Europe, ~16–18 Southern Europe).
12–40 Breakdown (Western Europe, key divergence):
12–14: 2% each (6%, Southern Europe higher).
15–16: 5% each (10%).
17–18: 8% each (16%).
19–20: 10% each (20%).
21–25: 8% each (40%).
26–30: 2% each (10%).
31–40: 0.2% each (2%).
5. Modern Era (1800–1900)
Mean: 20–25 (~22–24).
12–40 Breakdown:
12–16: 1% each (5%, rare).
17–18: 3% each (6%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 12% each (60%).
26–30: 3% each (15%).
31–40: 0.4% each (4%).
6. Contemporary Era (1900–2025)
Mean: 22–26 (1900–1950, ~23–24), 28–32 (2000–2025, ~30).
12–40 Breakdown:
1900–1950:
12–17: <1% each (<5%).
18–19: 3% each (6%).
20–25: 10% each (60%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 1% each (10%).
2000–2025:
12–20: <0.5% each (<3%).
21–25: 2% each (10%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–35: 10% each (50%).
36–40: 2% each (10%).
