No, it’s not a lack of understanding on my part. Your hubris is amazing.
Here’s the thing, Paul6 didnt alter the Tridentine rite. He created a new one. Nor did he alter the law of Quo Primum. Arguably, he could’ve adjusted QP, but he didn’t.
So this means that QP is still law and in force. Which Benedict confirmed in his 2005 motu.
If QP is still law then:
1. The allowance of the Tridentine rite is still law.
2. It is commanded, under penalty of sin, to only attend/say the Tridentine rite.
3. No other rites can be used. (Except for those 200 yrs old as of 1571).
4. No changes, alterations, edits or additions can be made to the rite.
5. No one can be forced to say/attend any rites other than Tridentine.
All of this under penalty of sin.
This is why Fr Hesse said the new rites are illicit. Because they violate Quo Primum every which way there is. Even if valid.
And illicit masses are grave sins, which damn to hell. Not an insignificant issue.
I think it is a lack of understanding on all our parts. I read through Pope Benedict's Motu Proprio and it states this:
"Art 1. The Roman Missal promulgated by Pope
Paul VI is the ordinary expression of the
lex orandi (rule of prayer) of the Catholic Church of the Latin rite. The Roman Missal promulgated by Saint Pius V and revised by Blessed
John XXIII is nonetheless to be considered an extraordinary expression
of the same lex orandi of the Church and duly honoured for its venerable and ancient usage. These two expressions of the Church’s
lex orandi will in no way lead to a division in the Church’s
lex credendi (rule of faith);
for they are two usages of the one Roman rite." This would make for an interesting discussion: Are they two different rites or merely different versions of the same rite?Pius V codified the Roman Tridentine rite in order to unify all the different types of rites being used around the world. He said in Quo Primum it was the Mass for all time and could never be abrogated:"Let all everywhere adopt and observe what has been
handed down by the Holy Roman Church, the Mother and Teacher of the other churches, and let Masses not be sung or read according to any other formula than that of this Missal
published by Us. This ordinance applies henceforth, now, and forever, throughout all the provinces of the Christian world, to all patriarchs, cathedral churches, collegiate and parish churches..."
Ok. Pope Pius V, as Vicar of Christ ,is speaking for the Church saying the Missal codified by the Church (Vatican) is the one that the rest of the world must now use with the exception of rites older than 200 years and other dispensations.
This was because, since the reformation, all sorts of odd liturgies were being used and introduced. In 1962 this same said Rite was revised by Pope John XXIII, and then in 1970, it was greatly revised by Pope Paul VI. Now, as we have established, a Pope has the power and authority to modify rites and liturgy. The Pope IS the the Holy Roman Church and thus what she has decreed she can change. Yes, Pope Paul the IV never abrogated Quo Premum, however what he did do is greatly modified this universal Roman Tridentine rite while maintaining its essentials.
Was it a good idea? NO! It was a terrible idea and proved a great danger to the faith. Was it heresy? No.
But wait, Quo Primum states: "We order and enjoin that nothing must be added to Our recently published Missal, nothing omitted from it, nor anything whatsoever be changed within it under the penalty of Our displeasure."
Yes, no one else can change it BUT what the Holy Roman Church has decreed, she - and she alone - can change. Each Pope is one and the same authority: St. Peter.
Sorry, with all due respect to his office, I have no time for Fr. Hesse. He is a man who cannot make distinctions as I have already shown and is sowing much confusion. Tell me, Pax, what is his background? Why did he leave the Vatican? Whose authority was he under? Did he practice as a priest? What do you really know about him?
In short, find me a more trustworthy source of information.
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