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Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism  (Read 6874 times)

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #125 on: May 26, 2026, 02:16:15 PM »
Refusing to answer basic theological statements then claiming I lack reading comprehension skills is very strange. 

"Omnis conscientia, sive recta, sive erronea, sive in per se malis, sive in indifferentibus, est obligatoria; ita quod qui contra conscientiam facit, peccat."

“Every conscience, whether right or erroneous, whether concerning things evil in themselves or things indifferent, is obligatory, so that he who acts against conscience sins.”

You must have a very good reason to disobey a Church Doctor. Let's hear it out and see if it is Catholic.
Good heavens man, by now, you should see that your conscience has been malformed, likely by your years spent outside of the true religion, and it's correction is desperately needed - and help in that arena has been provided to you. You can no longer claim your conscience as a loop hole after you're purposely rejecting the truth that's been handed to you. Such is the typical effect of dogmatic sedeism - which has you firmly within it's grip. 

   

    

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #126 on: May 26, 2026, 02:31:13 PM »
Good heavens man, by now, you should see that your conscience has been malformed, likely by your years spent outside of the true religion, and it's correction is desperately needed - and help in that arena has been provided to you. You can no longer claim your conscience as a loop hole after you're purposely rejecting the truth that's been handed to you. Such is the typical effect of dogmatic sedeism - which has you firmly within it's grip.

 

   

:sleep: Give logical arguments to counter those I gave or stay silent.




Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2026, 02:44:31 PM »
I don't think God would leave His Church entirely abandoned without a shepherd. ABL was best qualified to set a direction for the path forward in this crisis. He demonstrated a great love of Church law and obedience & respect for the hierarchy, but he also knew where to draw the line, both in how far to obey, and to what extent he can make his own judgments. He was one of the most traditional bishops who acted accordingly.

It would be interesting to know what he would do if he lived to see Benefice XVI & Francis. Would he keep waiting for their conversion? Would he clearly demonstrate to each their errors while pointing out the bad fruits? Would he consider uniting the trad clergy for an imperfect general council?
I don't need to "think". I saw. We saw. Everyone saw Pachamama. Everyone saw His Excellency Vigano being persecuted for denouncing child rapists. You do not truly think he is a Pope. I do not truly think he is a Pope. No one among true traditionalists thinks deep down that those degenerates are Popes. 

St Thomas said :

“Truth is found in the intellect according as it apprehends a thing as it is.”

St Theresa Avila said :

“God is supreme Truth; and to be humble is to walk in truth.”

If you are uncertain about the subject, uncertainty isn't a sin. No one will go to hell because they have a theological disagreement on the nature of the papal office. 

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Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2026, 03:05:57 PM »
:sleep: Give logical arguments to counter those I gave or stay silent.
Your dogmatic sedeism has you thinking that St. Thomas teaches that your conscience has guided you into your dogmatic sedeism, after you've been repeatedly corrected - yet you ask for logical arguments?

Pope Paul IV taught "that the Roman Pontiff,who is the representative upon earth of God and our God and Lord Jesus Christ, who holds the fullness of power over peoples and kingdoms, who may judge all and be judged by none in this world, may nonetheless be contradicted if he be found to have deviated from the Faith."

First, we see that the pope taught that popes can indeed deviate from the faith, fyi, ya can't "deviate from the faith" more than preaching heresy.

Also note, his instruction to us is clear about what we are to do when a pope is a heretic - we are to contradict him, not go around dogmatically insisting that popes are not popes because our conscience told us so. :facepalm: 
 

Re: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2026, 03:22:12 PM »
Your dogmatic sedeism has you thinking that St. Thomas teaches that your conscience has guided you into your dogmatic sedeism, after you've been repeatedly corrected - yet you ask for logical arguments?

Pope Paul IV taught "that the Roman Pontiff,who is the representative upon earth of God and our God and Lord Jesus Christ, who holds the fullness of power over peoples and kingdoms, who may judge all and be judged by none in this world, may nonetheless be contradicted if he be found to have deviated from the Faith."

First, we see that the pope taught that popes can indeed deviate from the faith, fyi, ya can't "deviate from the faith" more than preaching heresy.

Also note, his instruction to us is clear about what we are to do when a pope is a heretic - we are to contradict him, not go around dogmatically insisting that popes are not popes because our conscience told us so. :facepalm:
 
Considering his excellency Lefebvre's personality and beliefs , it is likely that after Pachamama's worship he would have declared publicly that the seat was vacant.

You cling to a ghost without caring about whether he would still have the same position today.