Author Topic: O.L. Jesus Christ does not make things complicated - Sedevacantism (Read 6864 times)

St Giles · « **Reply #135 on:** May 27, 2026, 09:06:35 AM »

Quote from: Lazarus on May 26, 2026, 02:44:31 PM

I don't need to "think". I saw. We saw. Everyone saw Pachamama. Everyone saw His Excellency Vigano being persecuted for denouncing child rapists. You do not truly think he is a Pope. I do not truly think he is a Pope. No one among true traditionalists thinks deep down that those degenerates are Popes.

Must all Popes go to Heaven? Are they constrained to be perfect? If not, to what extent can they be evil? and still hold office without any act of the Church removing them?

Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on May 26, 2026, 05:55:13 PM

He famously said he and de Castro Mayer 'preferred to wait'. After two rounds of Pachamama and countless other mind-numbing heresies reigned down without interruption for the last 35 years, you still think he'd be waiting to see if they were modernist liberal heretics?

My question is, what would he have done about it?

Lazarus · « **Reply #136 on:** May 27, 2026, 09:08:29 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on May 27, 2026, 05:20:04 AM

Did you read Pope Paul IV's instructions telling us what we are to do about a heretic pope? I posted it above just for you. It is contrary to your opinion I know, but if you obeyed that teaching of the Church, you would cure yourself of your dogmatic sedeism. There is no good reason to disobey him as you are doing.

Vatican II Popes didn't "deviate from the faith". They created a new religion.

This isn't mere heresy, it is apostasy.

The Vatican II Popes didn't make one or two heretic statements by mistake on subtle theological points, which is the situation Paul IV is writing about.

Vatican II councils are infallible. You cannot ignore their teachings and still claim their authors are Popes.

Lazarus · « **Reply #137 on:** May 27, 2026, 09:22:59 AM »

Quote from: St Giles on May 27, 2026, 09:06:35 AM

Must all Popes go to Heaven? Are they constrained to be perfect? If not, to what extent can they be evil? and still hold office without any act of the Church removing them?

My question is, what would he have done about it?

In the Abu Dhabi declaration "The Church" infallibly declared to be in partial communion with members of false religions.

If you are in communion with those how can you be Catholic?

Stubborn · « **Reply #138 on:** May 27, 2026, 10:29:51 AM »

Quote from: Lazarus on May 27, 2026, 09:08:29 AM

Vatican II Popes didn't "deviate from the faith". They created a new religion.

This isn't mere heresy, it is apostasy.

The Vatican II Popes didn't make one or two heretic statements by mistake on subtle theological points, which is the situation Paul IV is writing about.

Vatican II councils are infallible. You cannot ignore their teachings and still claim their authors are Popes.

You read meanings into words which the words do not say while you fail to avert to what the words do say, all in your effort to maintain your dogmatic sedeism.

Lazarus · « **Reply #139 on:** May 27, 2026, 11:16:39 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on May 27, 2026, 10:29:51 AM

You read meanings into words which the words do not say while you fail to avert to what the words do say, all in your effort to maintain your dogmatic sedeism.

You have been corrected. I have nothing else to say.

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