Author Topic: Letter from Fr. Pinaud (Read 13440 times)

B from A · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2013, 10:12:05 AM »

Quote from: Elsa Zardini

Ethelred, if you happen to read this one, could you please let us know where your posts re. Mr. Lovey/Lovely are.? Can't find them. Very convincing, IMIgnorantOpinion.

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Maybe even the Swiss benefactor was a modernist and pushed Fellay to be a Bishop because of it.

This benefactor was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr Lovey.

His son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. Mr Lovey senior died the same day when his son was ordained a priest, I think even in the same hour.

I didn't find any indications that Mr. Lovey was a modernist. But if I remember correctly, his son Fr Lovey today is pro Bp Fellay's sellout to New-Rome (which maybe is not postponed).

According to some recent posts here on Cathinfo about the Swiss false "mystic" who influenced Bp Fellay, it was a certain Fr Phillipe Lovey who was connected to this Swiss "mystic" and put her into contact with Bp Fellay around 1995 (+/-). We should have some more accurate information about this but unfortunately there's hardly any available.

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He had no intention to nominate a further bishop but it is said that he had to change his mind after a major financial swiss backer insisted that a swiss bishop be also nominated and pushed for Mgr Fellay.

From (SSPX) priestly sources who knew and know the family Lovey, we have the information that your mentioned backer who urged Archbishop Lefebvre to consecrate a Swiss-French bishop (number 4), was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr. Lovey.
I was told Mr. Lovey meant well. Still today we got the mess.

If I remember correctly Mr. Lovey handled financial affairs in or around Ecône, and was the head of a group of benefactors financially supporting Archbishop Lefebvre.

Mr. Lovey's son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. If I remember correctly, today Fr. Philippe Lovey is supporting Bp Fellay's sellout to Newrome, as do nearly all Swiss SSPX priests unfortunately.

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Quote from: Ethelred
From (SSPX) priestly sources who knew and know the family Lovey, we have the information that your mentioned backer who urged Archbishop Lefebvre to consecrate a Swiss-French bishop (number 4), was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr. Lovey.
I was told Mr. Lovey meant well. Still today we got the mess.

If I remember correctly Mr. Lovey handled financial affairs in or around Ecône, and was the head of a group of benefactors financially supporting Archbishop Lefebvre.

To be more precise: Mr. Lovey (on behalf of his group of benefactors) actually bought the entire Econe for Archbishop Lefebvre.

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Mr. Lovey's son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. If I remember correctly, today Fr. Philippe Lovey is supporting Bp Fellay's sellout to Newrome, as do nearly all Swiss SSPX priests unfortunately.

Thank you so much for this key-piece of information, Ethelred!!!!
I was unable to retrieve the name of the financial backer responsible for this. I do believe too he was a nice person, but was naively manipulated by evil-intended money-lenders. Our Lord was right to chase the banksters out of the temple.

You're welcome Suger, and thank you for your good informations.

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Re. ABL, he was in dire need of financial support and had no choice. This is how the banksters got a pull on the Society, as they have pulls on anything they find important in the West.

Well, the situation is becoming clearer now: After Mr. Lovey bought Ecône for the Archbishop, and then some ~20 years later in 1988 Mr. Lovey urged the Archbishop to consecrate also Fr. Fellay because of the "importance of Switzerland for the SSPX" (quoted according to my sources), I think it's understandable that the good Archbishop could have felt obliged to do so because of what Mr. Lovey did for the society...

That's no accusation.

B from A · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2013, 10:22:15 AM »

Sorry; formatting got all messed up. Will try to re-post with corrected format:

Quote from: Elsa Zardini

Ethelred, if you happen to read this one, could you please let us know where your posts re. Mr. Lovey/Lovely are.? Can't find them. Very convincing, IMIgnorantOpinion.

Quote from: Ethelred

Quote from: JuanDiego
Maybe even the Swiss benefactor was a modernist and pushed Fellay to be a Bishop because of it.

This benefactor was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr Lovey.

His son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. Mr Lovey senior died the same day when his son was ordained a priest, I think even in the same hour.

I didn't find any indications that Mr. Lovey was a modernist. But if I remember correctly, his son Fr Lovey today is pro Bp Fellay's sellout to New-Rome (which maybe is not postponed).

According to some recent posts here on Cathinfo about the Swiss false "mystic" who influenced Bp Fellay, it was a certain Fr Phillipe Lovey who was connected to this Swiss "mystic" and put her into contact with Bp Fellay around 1995 (+/-). We should have some more accurate information about this but unfortunately there's hardly any available.

Quote from: Ethelred

Quote from: Sugar
He had no intention to nominate a further bishop but it is said that he had to change his mind after a major financial swiss backer insisted that a swiss bishop be also nominated and pushed for Mgr Fellay.

From (SSPX) priestly sources who knew and know the family Lovey, we have the information that your mentioned backer who urged Archbishop Lefebvre to consecrate a Swiss-French bishop (number 4), was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr. Lovey.
I was told Mr. Lovey meant well. Still today we got the mess.

If I remember correctly Mr. Lovey handled financial affairs in or around Ecône, and was the head of a group of benefactors financially supporting Archbishop Lefebvre.

Mr. Lovey's son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. If I remember correctly, today Fr. Philippe Lovey is supporting Bp Fellay's sellout to Newrome, as do nearly all Swiss SSPX priests unfortunately.

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Quote from: Ethelred
From (SSPX) priestly sources who knew and know the family Lovey, we have the information that your mentioned backer who urged Archbishop Lefebvre to consecrate a Swiss-French bishop (number 4), was the Swiss-French lawyer Mr. Lovey.
I was told Mr. Lovey meant well. Still today we got the mess.

If I remember correctly Mr. Lovey handled financial affairs in or around Ecône, and was the head of a group of benefactors financially supporting Archbishop Lefebvre.

To be more precise: Mr. Lovey (on behalf of his group of benefactors) actually bought the entire Econe for Archbishop Lefebvre.

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Mr. Lovey's son Philippe Lovey was ordained a priest in the SSPX and later was the Swiss district superior. If I remember correctly, today Fr. Philippe Lovey is supporting Bp Fellay's sellout to Newrome, as do nearly all Swiss SSPX priests unfortunately.

Thank you so much for this key-piece of information, Ethelred!!!!
I was unable to retrieve the name of the financial backer responsible for this. I do believe too he was a nice person, but was naively manipulated by evil-intended money-lenders. Our Lord was right to chase the banksters out of the temple.

You're welcome Suger, and thank you for your good informations.

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Re. ABL, he was in dire need of financial support and had no choice. This is how the banksters got a pull on the Society, as they have pulls on anything they find important in the West.

Well, the situation is becoming clearer now: After Mr. Lovey bought Ecône for the Archbishop, and then some ~20 years later in 1988 Mr. Lovey urged the Archbishop to consecrate also Fr. Fellay because of the "importance of Switzerland for the SSPX" (quoted according to my sources), I think it's understandable that the good Archbishop could have felt obliged to do so because of what Mr. Lovey did for the society...

That's no accusation.

Unbrandable · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2013, 10:36:04 AM »

Quote from: Elsa Zardini

Zeitun, what bothers me is that these good priests don't have a mother, father, any family member, any friend, explaining to them that they need to run away. It is so obvious. I am doing my best with the ones I know or with their friends (who think likewise) to convince them. But it would seem no success.

It is obvious. I don't understand why he doesn't leave. What has he got to lose?

Elsa Zardini · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2013, 11:15:05 AM »

"B from A" and "unbrandable". Thank you so much. The thing is somebody FULLY of Monseñor Lefebvre's thinking and hence the Religion of God Trino (very important to other the word "trino") explains this to the French good priests. This is crucial. Like it or not. What can I do?

Unbrandable · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2013, 11:48:33 AM »

Quote from: Elsa Zardini

"B from A" and "unbrandable". Thank you so much. The thing is somebody FULLY of Monseñor Lefebvre's thinking and hence the Religion of God Trino (very important to other the word "trino") explains this to the French good priests. This is crucial. Like it or not. What can I do?

Exactly Elsa Zardini. Father Pinaud could do far more good rallying the Resistance in France, rather than sitting day after day in his "prison."