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Letter from Fr. Pinaud
« on: June 22, 2013, 03:28:58 PM »
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  • Fr. Pinaud is a French resistance priest (one of the 37 priests) who is being held in the Jaidhof fortress in Austria pending a "trial" by Menzingen. Fr. Pinaud decided to play through this farce of a "trial." He has written a couple of times from his place of detention in Austria. He does not speak German and does not know the people or the area.

    This letter was posted on La Sapiniere and on Un évêque s'est levé! The translation is my own.

    It shows what devious means Menzingen is using to try to undermine the resistance.

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    Fr. Pinaud: Is He Going To Celebrate His 20th Priestly Anniversary In Prison?

    Abbé Nicolas Pinaud
    IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIe jour de détention dans la forteresse de Jaidhof  (92nd day of detention in the Jaidhof fortress)
    Priestbruderschaft St Pius X
    Jaidhof 1 A
    3542 GFÖHL, NÖ
    Autriche [Austria]

    10 June 2013,
     
    “Imprisoned in a narrow dungeon cell in the Palazzo della Signoria, sleeping on bare earth, without straw, nor light, feet in stocks, hands in chains, left arm dislocated and broken by torture, so painful that he must sometimes be hand-fed, but hating no one, cursing no one, retaining all his magnanimity, all his kindness, all his faith, to the point of affecting his prison guard and undertaking to lead him and his daughter towards the perfection of the Christian life, Savonarola still had the strength to take up the pen to put into writing, in a very short time, between April 26 and May 8, 1498, the heartbreaking and sublime cry of his last “Miserere,” and suddenly to give to the words of the psalmist, that voice of the liturgy repeated for fifteen centuries, an echo of so poignant a beauty, an accent so direct, a candor so absolute, that it must merit to be perpetuated through time as one of the most pure and moving supplications of Christian piety.”

    Rest assured, this quotation from the introduction of the Prison Meditations of Savonarola by Cardinal Journet illustrates nothing about my situation. And above all, let no one translate this [quotation]into German so as to put it on I don’t know what site, because humor is very different according to place and this would provoke, by itself, a humorous movement which would wish upon me the treatment of Savonarola!

    The days follow one another occupied monastically in study. My trial has been announced for the Nativity of St. John the Baptist (June 24), which is preferable to the date of his beheading (August 29)!

    I perceive the confusion of some of you who have made me aware of their difficulty in believing what I wrote in an earlier letter, that is that:

    “From now on, I am arranging for a certain number of messages signed with my initials, to be sent from an electronic address bearing my name: nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr, to some people known among themselves [i.e. in the Resistance] and unknown to others.”

    I understand. But facts are facts. There were several messages sent from this address, nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr, which was created on March 3, 2013.

    It was used the same day [March 3] at 10:19 pm, to send the following message to I don’t know how many people:

    “The vice is tightening more and more. We are in the crosshairs of Menzingen and Suresnes . . . but I will not take up arms! Have confidence! NP”

    At least one confrere was misled and responded with a message (that I have not received!) to this false message (that I never wrote)!

    On March 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm, the same message was sent from the same address, to other priests and lay recipients. At least one layman was deceived and later threatened in mid-March. A court bailiff remitted the message and its response to me. . . which I evidently would never have otherwise received!!

    On the same day, March 6, Bishop Williamson received from the same address [nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr] the following message that I neither wrote nor sent:

    “Dear Bishop, it would seem that the address of Fr. Rioult (1) has been hacked. If you have any documents to forward to him, send them to me and I will forward them to him. (In particular any  work in progress). Courage. We will have them. Wishing you a holy Lent, I assure you of my prayers, dear Bishop. N. Pinaud”

    Bishop Williamson was deceived by the false message, and sent a response to me that I have never received, and for good reason! It was a bailiff who communicated this to me several weeks ago. . . I do not know how many people were deceived by this urbi et orbi diffusion, which, to say the least, lacks justice? If you are one of them, let me know. Watch this space. [lasapiniere.info]

    The accounts of the [Chartres] pilgrimage which reached me were quite painful, but it seems to me that the Sunday sermon at least enabled one to forget the cold and rain for a few minutes.

    “. . .  the Conciliar Church, that is to say, that sect that occupies the Catholic Church. It is an advantage for us to be regarded as excluded, as in exile . . .” (2)

    At last a little visibility in the persistent fog.

    Nicolas Pinaud

    1.  Fr. Olivier Rioult is a very vocal resistance priest in France. –Ed.
    2.  From the May 19, 2013 Sunday sermon by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais. –Ed.


    Pray for Fr. Pinaud and Fr. Rioult and that Bishop Tissier de Mallerais will come out for the Resistance.

    Vive la Resistance!!
    Vive Christ Roi!!

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  • The SSPX "detaining" priests in a "fortress".... Surreal !!!

    How much lower can they go? I'm afraid a whole lot still.




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  • Quote from: ancien regime
    Fr. Pinaud is a French resistance priest (one of the 37 priests) who is being held in the Jaidhof fortress in Austria pending a "trial" by Menzingen. Fr. Pinaud decided to play through this farce of a "trial." He has written a couple of times from his place of detention in Austria. He does not speak German and does not know the people or the area.

    This letter was posted on La Sapiniere and on Un évêque s'est levé! The translation is my own.

    It shows what devious means Menzingen is using to try to undermine the resistance.

    Quote
    Fr. Pinaud: Is He Going To Celebrate His 20th Priestly Anniversary In Prison?

    Abbé Nicolas Pinaud
    IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIII IIe jour de détention dans la forteresse de Jaidhof  (92nd day of detention in the Jaidhof fortress)
    Priestbruderschaft St Pius X
    Jaidhof 1 A
    3542 GFÖHL, NÖ
    Autriche [Austria]

    10 June 2013,
     
    “Imprisoned in a narrow dungeon cell in the Palazzo della Signoria, sleeping on bare earth, without straw, nor light, feet in stocks, hands in chains, left arm dislocated and broken by torture, so painful that he must sometimes be hand-fed, but hating no one, cursing no one, retaining all his magnanimity, all his kindness, all his faith, to the point of affecting his prison guard and undertaking to lead him and his daughter towards the perfection of the Christian life, Savonarola still had the strength to take up the pen to put into writing, in a very short time, between April 26 and May 8, 1498, the heartbreaking and sublime cry of his last “Miserere,” and suddenly to give to the words of the psalmist, that voice of the liturgy repeated for fifteen centuries, an echo of so poignant a beauty, an accent so direct, a candor so absolute, that it must merit to be perpetuated through time as one of the most pure and moving supplications of Christian piety.”

    Rest assured, this quotation from the introduction of the Prison Meditations of Savonarola by Cardinal Journet illustrates nothing about my situation. And above all, let no one translate this [quotation]into German so as to put it on I don’t know what site, because humor is very different according to place and this would provoke, by itself, a humorous movement which would wish upon me the treatment of Savonarola!

    The days follow one another occupied monastically in study. My trial has been announced for the Nativity of St. John the Baptist (June 24), which is preferable to the date of his beheading (August 29)!

    I perceive the confusion of some of you who have made me aware of their difficulty in believing what I wrote in an earlier letter, that is that:

    “From now on, I am arranging for a certain number of messages signed with my initials, to be sent from an electronic address bearing my name: nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr, to some people known among themselves [i.e. in the Resistance] and unknown to others.”

    I understand. But facts are facts. There were several messages sent from this address, nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr, which was created on March 3, 2013.

    It was used the same day [March 3] at 10:19 pm, to send the following message to I don’t know how many people:

    “The vice is tightening more and more. We are in the crosshairs of Menzingen and Suresnes . . . but I will not take up arms! Have confidence! NP”

    At least one confrere was misled and responded with a message (that I have not received!) to this false message (that I never wrote)!

    On March 6, 2013 at 1:47 pm, the same message was sent from the same address, to other priests and lay recipients. At least one layman was deceived and later threatened in mid-March. A court bailiff remitted the message and its response to me. . . which I evidently would never have otherwise received!!

    On the same day, March 6, Bishop Williamson received from the same address [nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr] the following message that I neither wrote nor sent:

    “Dear Bishop, it would seem that the address of Fr. Rioult (1) has been hacked. If you have any documents to forward to him, send them to me and I will forward them to him. (In particular any  work in progress). Courage. We will have them. Wishing you a holy Lent, I assure you of my prayers, dear Bishop. N. Pinaud”

    Bishop Williamson was deceived by the false message, and sent a response to me that I have never received, and for good reason! It was a bailiff who communicated this to me several weeks ago. . . I do not know how many people were deceived by this urbi et orbi diffusion, which, to say the least, lacks justice? If you are one of them, let me know. Watch this space. [lasapiniere.info]

    The accounts of the [Chartres] pilgrimage which reached me were quite painful, but it seems to me that the Sunday sermon at least enabled one to forget the cold and rain for a few minutes.

    “. . .  the Conciliar Church, that is to say, that sect that occupies the Catholic Church. It is an advantage for us to be regarded as excluded, as in exile . . .” (2)

    At last a little visibility in the persistent fog.

    Nicolas Pinaud

    1.  Fr. Olivier Rioult is a very vocal resistance priest in France. –Ed.
    2.  From the May 19, 2013 Sunday sermon by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais. –Ed.


    Pray for Fr. Pinaud and Fr. Rioult and that Bishop Tissier de Mallerais will come out for the Resistance.

    Vive la Resistance!!
    Vive Christ Roi!!


    More evidence that the enemy fights dirty! But then, what would we expect, considering their leader, the Father of Lies.......

    We pray daily for all of the Resistance priests, that God will give them the courage to persevere for the Holy Faith.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 22, 2013, 04:28:22 PM »
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  • I agree -- the pro-Rome contingent fights very dirty.
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    « Reply #5 on: June 23, 2013, 03:25:35 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    I agree -- the pro-Rome contingent fights very dirty.


    Dirty yes but, it all seems very Talmudic and Jewish at the root.

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    « Reply #6 on: June 23, 2013, 03:51:07 PM »
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  • Well, we couldn't rescue Sr. Lucy...maybe we can rescue Fr. Pinaud...

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  • Quote from: Matthew
    I agree -- the pro-Rome contingent fights very dirty.

    This dirty-tricks campaign may be a sign of things to come.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 23, 2013, 04:20:08 PM »
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  • I know I'm very dense but.....  
    Would someone explain this situation? I've heard a little in the past.

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    « Reply #9 on: June 23, 2013, 05:30:10 PM »
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  • Yes an explanation would be helpful.  I had problems following the course of events from the letter.

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    « Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 11:14:34 PM »
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  • June 24        Feast of St. John the Baptist
    Is there any news of the outcome of the "trial"?
     :judge:
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    On the same day, March 6, Bishop Williamson received from the same address [nicolas_pinaud@yahoo.fr] the following message that I neither wrote nor sent:

    “Dear Bishop, it would seem that the address of Fr. Rioult (1) has been hacked. If you have any documents to forward to him, send them to me and I will forward them to him. (In particular any  work in progress). Courage. We will have them. Wishing you a holy Lent, I assure you of my prayers, dear Bishop. N. Pinaud”

    Bishop Williamson was deceived by the false message, and sent a response to me that I have never received, and for good reason! It was a bailiff who communicated this to me several weeks ago. . . I do not know how many people were deceived by this urbi et orbi diffusion, which, to say the least, lacks justice? If you are one of them, let me know. Watch this space. [lasapiniere.info]




    This would be at least the second time +W has been snookered by
    the kikes who pull the strings of His Eagerness B. Fellay.

    They know his weaknesses too well.  And they have no scruples in
    using them to every advantage against him and the Resistance.  

    There are really evil people out there who will stop at nothing.


    And then there are the waughs of the world who insist that everything
    is just fine.  Go back to sleep.   :sleep:



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    « Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 05:18:29 AM »
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  • Is there nothing one can do with regard to this unheard of detention, outside Communist systems. How can anyone justify over 90 days detention, awaiting some kind of 'trial' for a priest who simply did not agree with the neo-Sup Gen's approaches to Rome???

    Is there not some kind of regulation within the SSPX itself on dealing with priests who may voice their disagreement with something, without being subjected to an 'arrest' and 'detention' without any appeal, even while the arrogant powers that be decide how they are going to deal with the matter???

    Why is there no outcry from fellow priests around the world against this enforced and lengthy detention??? Why the silence? Except from the few from the Resistance...

    Something is very, very wrong with the whole system within the neo-SSPX.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 05:46:17 AM »
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  • 1917, excellent posts here in cathinfo a few months ago re. "crimestop", "crime-think", "thoughtcrime" (1984 novel, George Orwell) applied to the current crisis in the ExSPX. Also, this link (surely exists in English as well), might help understand "methodology" which might have been applied since Monseñor Lefebvre passed away (Palo Alto is in Silicon Valley):

    es.wikipedia.org / wiki / Escuela_de_Palo_Alto

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    « Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 05:56:33 AM »
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  • Zeitun, what bothers me is that these good priests don't have a mother, father, any family member, any friend, explaining to them that they need to run away. It is so obvious. I am doing my best with the ones I know or with their friends (who think likewise) to convince them. But it would seem no success.

     

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