You forgot your bibliography: Ladislaus' opinions. 

I do think it reasonable to consider the sun and moon potentially interfering with the pendulum experiment. I imagine a properly insulated room could remove electromagnetic interference, but not gravitational interference.

Yeah, JJ is weak sauce at refuting FE.


Lad, I would like to see your thorough refutation of the coriolis effect including proof that it has "never been measured or experimentally demonstrated".

As various physicists have stated, no experiment has ever been devised that can show the earth to be in motion.  So, this really isn't an issue related to the shape of the earth but more about whether the earth moves, i.e. geocentrism.  Those like OP who are unacquainted with the subject but amateurishly spam lame articles onto the forum here conflate geocentrism and FE-ism.  I'll try to find more citations about Coriolis, but no instrument has ever measured or detected it.  It's a mere hypothesis, and the assertion is that the rotational direction of hurricanes is a result of it.  It's often claimed that snipers must take Coriolis into account, except that multiple trained sniper have said that they make no such calculation.  If there were any measurable force from the earth's rotation, you'd be able to measure or sense the movement somehow, except that when FEs argue that no such forces are evident, as on airplanes or hot air balloons, the response from the Globe advocates it that the earths' gravity drags the entire atmosphere as a closed system around the planet so that the motion is undetectable in our system ... except for the Coriolis effect?  That makes no sense.  That guy who made the Red Bull jump ascended in a balloon for nearly 3 hours, and during that time, the rotation of the earth underneath him should have put him about 2,000 miles West of his position.  Yet when he jumped he ended up a few miles East, which could have been attributed to the jet stream, which goes from West to East.  So either the force of the earth's rotation cannot be detected within the closed system, where an object up at 128,000 feet, like the Red Bull capsule gets dragged around the planet as if it were attached to it by an iron rod, in which case the force of any earth movement is absolutely negated by "gravity" or else if the earth's movement can be detected on earth, it would have manifested itself on balloons like that and would have to be calculated for in aviation.  So it's like a have your cake and eat it too scenario.

If you Google up, "Can the Coriolist effect be measured?" you get the answers that "it can be detected in the rotation of hurricanes" or "the Foucault pendulum".  There has been no instrument that could detect this movement, as it's merely been hypothesized that the hurricane rotation is caused by Coriolist or that Foucault shows the same thing (though Foucault is debunked as invalid).  Observing some phenomenon that you attribute to the Coriolis effect is not the same thing as directly measuring it.  Heck, Michelson-Morley devised the most sophisticated experiment ever to detect the earth's motion and failed.  No one has yet succeeded in detecting the earth's motion.  There was also Airy's so-called failure, which demonstrated that the earth is at rest and that the stars rotate around it.

Now, if you break down Michelson-Morley, it actually did show some variation, not of the earth's movement, but of a potential ether drift or movement.

Even if there were some rotational forces observed, though they haven't been measured, they could be caused by other phenomena, such as the rotation of the firmament around the earth, the rotation of the sun, which is an electromagnetic phenomenon, the direction of movement of warmth, from south to north in the northern "hemisphere" and from north to south in the southern.  As an aside note, I always found it curious that if the earth were in fact rotating from West to East, as is claimed, at about 700MPH on average (depending on your latitude), that the jetstreams nevertheless also move from West to East.  You'd expect them to move East to West, against the rotation of the earth.  Why is that?  In addition, the earth is allegedly moving at 1000 MPH at the equator.  In that case, at the equator it's moving faster than the speed of sound.  So if a man were speaking to another man East of him, the sound would never arrive, since he, standing on the earth, would have been carried 1000 MPH by the earth's movement while the sound was travelling only 767 MPH.  Sound waves are not in fact affected by gravity.  So how can this be?  No experiment has ever detected sound moving at different speeds going East or going West.  In fact, experiments have been conducted with canons where the canon balls were shot straight up as high as they could go, and they always land within inches or feet of the canon, sometimes going right back into to the canon's opening.  How can that be if there's any movement of the earth at all?  There's no way that the force of gravity is so strong that it hold things to it as if it were a giant steel rod, where things don't move at all from East to West as the earth moves at 1000 MPH beneath it.  And, yet, if there were such a strong force of gravity dragging, say, an airplane 1000 MPH to the East, one would think that a tremendous amount of force would be required to offset this force (calculate the force it would take to drag the object East at 1000 MPH).  You would consume a tremendous amount more of fuel and take a lot more time flying from East to West than flying West to East, kindof like how salmon swimming upstream have to exert much more energy.  Even if you claim that the effects of the atmosphere are negated by gravity, what negates this tremendous force of gravity on the airplane so that it can move with equal effort (and almost effortlessly) against this gravity drag?

Now, again, all of this speaks more to the movement of the earth, i.e. geocentrism, than to the shape of the earth, but the two are often conflated in discussion of Flat Earth (by both sides).

Awesome!  Thank you so much. 

I recently found a book by Fr. Matthias Gaudron: The Catechism of the Crisis in the Church. The original is in German. Published by Angelus Press 2010 $ 18. Great reviews on their web page, like *****. You learn a lot every 10 minutes. Maybe Fr. Gaudron is a theologian ?? The world needs clear cut books like this. Wow! Even recommended by +F... The good ole days !