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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Dinner with +Stobnicki
« Last post by Giovanni Berto on Today at 10:20:55 PM »
St. Peter was first bishop of Jerusalem for three years, and then in the year 36 became the bishop of Antioch for six years.  It was only until the year 42 that St. Peter became the Bishop of Rome. And I am not so sure that St. Peter did not send a bishop to Rome to govern things before he arrived there.  So, the question is fair enough, When St. Peter was bishop of Antioch, was he then at that time the bishop of Rome in actu or in potentia?  In theory one could be the bishop of Rome and never step foot in Rome.  And I am still uncertain at what point the Electee becomes the Bishop of Rome.  I think at some point the candidate says 'Accepto' or something along those lines.

This thread has caused me to think about levels/degrees of potency in relation to the papacy, something I did not consider before.

Wherever St. Peter was, that was the First See. Rome is the First See only because he chose it to be his diocese. There was nothing special about Rome regarding Catholicism before he went there.
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Dinner with +Stobnicki
« Last post by OABrownson1876 on Today at 09:26:16 PM »
St. Peter was first bishop of Jerusalem for three years, and then in the year 36 became the bishop of Antioch for six years.  It was only until the year 42 that St. Peter became the Bishop of Rome. And I am not so sure that St. Peter did not send a bishop to Rome to govern things before he arrived there.  So, the question is fair enough, When St. Peter was bishop of Antioch, was he then at that time the bishop of Rome in actu or in potentia?  In theory one could be the bishop of Rome and never step foot in Rome.  And I am still uncertain at what point the Electee becomes the Bishop of Rome.  I think at some point the candidate says 'Accepto' or something along those lines.

This thread has caused me to think about levels/degrees of potency in relation to the papacy, something I did not consider before.
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on March 19, 1715, Pope Clement XI released the Edict Ex Illa Die, stating that Catholics must use "Tianzhu" instead of "Shangdi" for Christianity's God.

taken from wikipedia


Also

On 19 March 1715, Pope Clement XI issued the papal bull Ex illa die, which officially condemned Chinese rites.[19] In response, the Kangxi Emperor officially forbade Christian missions in China, as they were "causing trouble".[26]

Clement XI banned the rites in 1704. In 1742, Benedict XIV reaffirmed the ban and forbade debate.[1]

In 1939, after two centuries, the Holy See re-assessed the issue. Pius XII issued a decree on 8 December 1939, authorizing Chinese Catholics to observe the ancestral rites and participate in Confucius-honoring ceremonies.[1] The general principle of sometimes admitting native traditions even into the liturgy of the church, provided that such traditions harmonize with the true and authentic spirit of the liturgy, was proclaimed by the Second “Vatican Council (1962–65).[6]


Both from wiki, also interesting how Pope Pius 12th did another 'dubious' thing during his reign... is Ladislaus still on the forum?

Yes, most interesting.

Thanks researching the Papal interdictions.

Pope Pius XII had top notch periti to write his encyclicals.

While he unlocked the Catholic Church’s doors for:
Josemaria jew Escriva, Msgr. Bugnini and Chinese Folk religion.

BTW, The Chinese national potential to convert to Catholicism has worried the Chinese communist from the beginning.

Mao Tse Tung was quoted in the early 1950’s as saying the  most dangerous organization in China was… The Legion of Mary.
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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: How to stop using profanity?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 08:14:46 PM »
I actually think it's done on purpose, where they are almost required by some Luciferian contract to put some blasphemous cuss-word into a moive, using either God or Jesus Christ.
Watched the new Superman movie today with my caregiving client and while watching the movie I remembered these posts. So much blasphemous and irreverent language is used. No wonder so many non-Catholics use the name of God irreverently when cinema spews this foul language.  What bugged me most about the movie was at the end of the film they played this Iggy Pop song about being a punk rocker (admittedly there is a humorous aspect how Superman liked punk rock in his youth so the song choice is a little clever) but there's a lyric in that song that's very demonic.
  
"See me die on Bleecker Street
I'm bored with being god
See me sneering in my car
I'm driving to my star"

diabolical nonsense!


On that note, Lad, how do you feel about saying Oh my goodness instead of Oh my Gosh?
Also, if you have a worldly work acquaintance or relative who said our Lord's name in vain, how would you correct them? 

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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: Pro life donations
« Last post by songbird on Today at 08:06:56 PM »
I did some research into www.generationlife.org.  I searched for grants. I looked for those who give grants.  That is, if you donate, where does the money go?
Some of the funders of grants listed are: Schwab, Ellis foundation, Maguire Foundation.  This was interesting. Ellis role in family planning is not so much as providing access to information and services(which is not explained).

So, one must go deeper to see who the grantees are.  Look at their background and decide.  I squirm about grants.  Let us say that Ellis foundation gives so much $ to teach a program.  That is how it works.  That program must be taught their way.  So, you might want to do a little research on your own. 
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Funny Stuff for Catholics / Re: Funny Stuff
« Last post by St Giles on Today at 07:48:24 PM »
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Fr. Patrick Kimball leaving the SSPX
« Last post by AMDG forever on Today at 07:15:58 PM »

:facepalm: And this is where the false “recognize and resist” position leads. If the pseudo “pope” Leo is truly a pope and if the local “bishop” is truly the ordinary, you must submit to their jurisdiction. No questions asked. Unfortunately, he chose the wrong road. If he hasn’t done so yet, he will find it necessary to abandon one or more doctrines so as to keep on good terms with his illegitimate “superiors”. What he has done is certainly more in line with logic than staying with the SSPX position.
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Politics and World Leaders / Re: Trumpism is Officially DEAD
« Last post by Boru on Today at 06:58:01 PM »
I do not think the young man is gαy, he is just a bit young and does not always measure his words carefully.  The ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ community tend to be very prolific in their number of partners, and I believe that Fuentes is implying that a man who sleeps around with multiple women copies ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in this regard.  My understanding is that he is a Catholic who has not slept around.  I would like to have a sit down with him and find out what he has read.  He seems to like history from what I can tell.
Fuentes uses shock tactics to get your attention. And it works. So yeah, his point is that real men can control themselves and don't give in to their passions like the the checkers board club. Intelligent and gutsy but extreme in his deliverance. Quite the enigma. Certainly has woken up to Trump.
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Pater. Ave. Gloria. Sub tuum præsidium.
🙏

My mother-in-law is in the same condition.
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Fr. Patrick Kimball leaving the SSPX
« Last post by Boru on Today at 06:16:30 PM »
Sorry, I never asked assuming it's his hometown diocese in Syracuse, New York. If I find out different or get more details, I'll post it here.
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