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General Discussion / Re: Men, the system is against you
« Last post by jen51 on Today at 08:33:09 PM »

Also, get a prenuptial agreement. Never get married, if the woman doesn't want to get a prunupt, even when the State is excluded, and the marriage is solely conferred by the Church. If a woman rejects a prenupt, she is hiding an insidious plan and intention. Break up with her immediately.
I see it the opposite. Any consideration of marrying a man would be off if he wanted a prenup. And I'm no gold digger. :)
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General Discussion / Re: any REAL apparitions?
« Last post by Last Tradhican on Today at 08:15:00 PM »
This is the typical anti-intellectual attitude that pervades in Trad circles.
Trads don't use birth control, so they have big families. Getting a job that provides for a family is more important to them than dreaming of being called an intellectual.

Kid, the more you talk the worse it gets. Now you imagine yourself an intellectual. You are just living off your parents sweat. You have accomplished nothing yet in life and you criticize and complain to others who have. Good luck with that. Just during this thread your ratio has gone to 4:1 in the negative.

Have a nice life.
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General Discussion / Re: any REAL apparitions?
« Last post by Jaynek on Today at 07:56:15 PM »
You guys would do well to stop arguing over meaningless topics, and have some real discussions. Wouldn't CI be a lot better if we discussed the Fathers and St. Thomas instead of BOD and silly conspiracies? How does any of this help posters grow in their faith? Before you take swipes at me for my age, I'd ask you how many of you can read Latin or Greek. What do you spend your free time doing? Studying Scripture and reading the Fathers, or arguing on silly forums like this?
I can read Latin and Greek and Hebrew.  I value the intellectual tradition of the Church very much.  In my experience, however, abstract theological discussions rarely help people to grow in their faith.

Usually people most benefit from practical discussions on how to live out their faith every day.  For example, how do we balance our prayers and devotions with our duties of our state of life?  What sorts of recreation are wholesome and suitable for Catholics?   How can we best prepare ourselves for Confession and/or Mass?  What should we do when distracted at prayer?

It's great that you would like to see this forum doing more to help people be better Catholics and I'm sure there is room for improvement for most of us.  But reading Latin and Greek has nothing to do with holiness.  On the contrary, pride in one's intellectual attainments is an obstacle to holiness. (I know because I've been there and done that.)

What languages one knows or books one has read are mere knowledge. This is not the same as, or as important as, wisdom.  And neither of these is as important as kindness. One cannot be a scholar in service to the Church without a foundation of prayer and penance.   We are in constant danger of intellectual pride and can end up doing more harm than good, if it is left unchecked. 

Not many people are called to be scholars.  You very well may be one of them, but this does not mean you should look down on those who are not.  Scholars have much to learn from non-scholars.  Many people will have some virtue in which they excel and we should be quick to recognize and imitate these.
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General Discussion / Re: Dr. William Pierce: the white middle class
« Last post by Banezian on Today at 07:46:04 PM »
Wow, some really flippant comments here -- even for a self admitted college freshman!  Of course, Tom Fleming doesn't need to be a kook to get his points across.  I never claimed he did, but by his own writing on 9-11 (no small horror by any sane man's standards) he is a lot worse than a kook when he publicly pushes one of modern history's most idiotic conspiracy theories imaginable.

There are all kinds of serious traditional Catholic scholars.  As such they should be concerned about speaking and writing the truth and only the truth.  They denigrate themselves and hold themselves up for rightful contempt when they publicly push pure neo-con/Zionist propaganda for the consumption of a dumbed down and politically correct population and or one that is largely held captive by their own cognitive dissonance.

How is it that you just so flippantly blow off the question of 9-11?  Do you have anyone close to you that got killed or severely injured in the immoral, unjust, and criminal pre-emptive actions as well as occupations the United States has undertaken in the Middle East as a result of the false narrative which our own government has fed us, our government which in turn is largely held captive by the Israeli Lobby via AIPAC and hundreds of other Israeli/Jewish interest groups?  Do you even give a damn?

Maybe you can follow in Fleming's footsteps and become an academic with your head wrapped up in your Latin and Greek and whatever else.  You can be like Fleming who appears to have absolutely no problem pushing a monstrously horrific false narrative which has literally led (as it was intended to lead by its originators) to incalculable death and destruction.  It turned out to be death and destruction (which is, of course, still ongoing) at a cost of literally millions of lost innocent lives and not millions, not billions, but trillions of dollars.

So what is your response to all that I've said?  I imagine it's what you've already said, that you just "don't really care what folks think of 9/11."  Maybe you think that if the Fathers and St. Thomas were alive today they would not -- in your words -- "waste time on this junk."  Well, you are very wrong.  After all they were wise and courageous saints who were not craven to human respect.  As such they would care deeply about catastrophes that caused untold human suffering, suffering which could very well be greatly mitigated in the present and even prevented in the future by bringing about an awareness of the truth of what led to all the death and destruction in the first place.  These saints didn't hide in ivory towers of Greek and Latin and write propaganda garbage for the powers that be.

As for your telling me to, "Read the Fathers/St. Thomas, [and] get a good grasp on the Faith," I can assure you I have.  That in large part is why I have said what I have said I have in this thread.
Even if all you say about 9/11 is true, so what? What are you going to do about it? Discussing this at length does nothing. I'm as opposed to the wars and nonsense that the US government has engaged in as anyone else( as is Fleming)
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General Discussion / Re: Men, the system is against you
« Last post by Viva Cristo Rey on Today at 07:40:22 PM »
Truth is that most Catholics do have the wisdom to seek Catholic teaching which includes the New Testament and the Holy Trinity.  And it is the Latin Mass.  And Catholics need to instruct the ignorant.  We aren't "Hebrew Israelites"; We are Catholics. 
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General Discussion / Re: Dr. William Pierce: the white middle class
« Last post by klasG4e on Today at 07:38:30 PM »
Dr. Fleming  is a serious Traditional Catholic scholar who produces original work. He doesn't need to be a kook to get his points across. I don't really care what folks think of 9/11. The events happened, and going on and on about them is pointless. Let's say the government did do it. So what? What are you going to do about it? Read the Fathers/St. Thomas, get a good grasp on the Faith, and don't waste time on this junk.

Wow, some really flippant comments here -- even for a self admitted college freshman!  Of course, Tom Fleming doesn't need to be a kook to get his points across.  I never claimed he did, but by his own writing on 9-11 (no small horror by any sane man's standards) he is a lot worse than a kook when he publicly pushes one of modern history's most idiotic conspiracy theories imaginable.

There are all kinds of serious traditional Catholic scholars.  As such they should be concerned about speaking and writing the truth and only the truth.  They denigrate themselves and hold themselves up for rightful contempt when they publicly push pure neo-con/Zionist propaganda for the consumption of a dumbed down and politically correct population and or one that is largely held captive by their own cognitive dissonance.

How is it that you just so flippantly blow off the question of 9-11?  Do you have anyone close to you that got killed or severely injured in the immoral, unjust, and criminal pre-emptive actions as well as occupations the United States has undertaken in the Middle East as a result of the false narrative which our own government has fed us, our government which in turn is largely held captive by the Israeli Lobby via AIPAC and hundreds of other Israeli/Jewish interest groups?  Do you even give a damn?

Maybe you can follow in Fleming's footsteps and become an academic with your head wrapped up in your Latin and Greek and whatever else.  You can be like Fleming who appears to have absolutely no problem pushing a monstrously horrific false narrative which has literally led (as it was intended to lead by its originators) to incalculable death and destruction.  It turned out to be death and destruction (which is, of course, still ongoing) at a cost of literally millions of lost innocent lives and not millions, not billions, but trillions of dollars.

So what is your response to all that I've said?  I imagine it's what you've already said, that you just "don't really care what folks think of 9/11."  Maybe you think that if the Fathers and St. Thomas were alive today they would not -- in your words -- "waste time on this junk."  Well, you are very wrong.  After all they were wise and courageous saints who were not craven to human respect.  As such they would care deeply about catastrophes that caused untold human suffering, suffering which could very well be greatly mitigated in the present and even prevented in the future by bringing about an awareness of the truth of what led to all the death and destruction in the first place.  These saints didn't hide in ivory towers of Greek and Latin and write propaganda garbage for the powers that be.

As for your telling me to, "Read the Fathers/St. Thomas, [and] get a good grasp on the Faith," I can assure you I have.  That in large part is why I have said what I have said I have in this thread.
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General Discussion / Re: any REAL apparitions?
« Last post by Matto on Today at 07:31:27 PM »
This is the typical anti-intellectual attitude that pervades in Trad circles. We need Trad Catholic scholars who can take on the tide of Modernism and secularism.
Good luck with that. Everyone has their own ideas about what we need. I think we need more stigmatists. But I have no idea how that would ever happen.
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General Discussion / Geology ? - the Puna Volcano, 2018
« Last post by Nandarani on Today at 07:31:06 PM »
Letter to the editors, 20 June, 2018, Honolulu Star-Advertiser:  a close copy. 

Today I learned from another former resident of Puna that the geothermal protests I recall from the early '90's were legitimate.  They pointed out that causing disequilibrium under ground by drawing off pressure to run a turbine engine to generate electricity was not desirable. 
 
The state agreed to pay an Israeli company to insert a mechanism to draw off the pressure in the underground cavities under for example Leilani Estates.  Electricity was generated, and sold to Maui which offered the highest price.  Big Island residents never got any electricity from the plant.
 
The Israeli company had already done the same thing in two other parts of the world with the same result we saw in Puna before entering into a contract with the State of Hawai'i.  When enough time had passed, a honey comb of cavities was left where formerly things under the ground were in a state of equilibrium.  Nature abhors a vacuum.  The ground collapsed to fill the spaces.
 
Normally, when volcano erupts a cone is formed because a spurt of lava comes up.  The Puna case this year was not that at all - instead - bursting up all over the place because the state of disequilibrium caused the ground to collapse.

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End of excerpt. 
 
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I have a traditional catholic friend whom I have known for about 4 years.  We have kids about the same age and we have slowly gotten to know them better.  But we have never been invited to their house. We either saw each other at church or invited them to our house.  I knew they were living with relatives, so I just figured they were trying to be considerate of them. But recently we were at an event where we met their nephew. He is eighteen or nineteen years old.  It was obvious by the way he dressed that he was gay, he even had a rainbow bracelet and his eyebrows drawn on.  They didn’t introduce us, he was just there. Now I wonder if they never invited us over for that reason. I know they have raised him from a young child, so I think they are enabling him.  I am not sure if I should just ignore it, or if I should be asking some questions, or reconsidering our friendship entirely. My main worry is that her kids are being raised with him, so some form of normalization is there. How will it effect my kids when they play together? We were planning to meet up regularly and even go on vacation together.  I wouldn’t let my kids read books or watch shows that normalize gayness, so what about friends? What would you do? 
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General Discussion / Re: any REAL apparitions?
« Last post by Banezian on Today at 07:09:24 PM »
re: I'd ask you how many of you can read Latin or Greek
In my youth, when the USA was not overrun by Mexicans, I met so many experts in Spanish in my travels through the USA, I stopped counting.  When I started to talk to them in Spanish, they choked. "In the country of blind men, the one eyed man is a king".

re: What do you spend your free time doing?

Free time? Only children with parents that pay for everything have free time to study Greek and theology

Reminds me of what my Dad told me when I said I'd like to study photography (I was 16 years old) : "Nice hobby son for you to do read about in your spare time, but for the real world take up something that can provide for a family".
This is the typical anti-intellectual attitude that pervades in Trad circles. We need Trad Catholic scholars who can take on the tide of Modernism and secularism. I went to rigorous prep-schools, and I'd like to go back and teach at prep-school, so scholarship is quite important to me
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