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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Ember days?
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2025, 01:49:35 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 21, 2025, 12:36:01 PM
So if you believe Roncalli et al. were legitimate popes, then, well, they eliminated ember days entirely.  But if you're SV, then they were last week.  So the only mandatory ones were the ones this past week.
The 62 missal changes were approved by Pius XII so technically ok.  (As far as the calendar goes).  I can see why the SVs go with last week because they reject the 62.  Not good or bad, it’s just an explanation for the difference. 
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Offline TKGS

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2025, 02:18:54 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 21, 2025, 12:36:01 PM
So if you believe Roncalli et al. were legitimate popes, then, well, they eliminated ember days entirely.  But if you're SV, then they were last week.  So the only mandatory ones were the ones this past week.
I was going to ask about this.  I didn't think there were any Ember Days in the Conciliar sect, and you answered the question before I had the chance to even ask.
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2025, 03:37:38 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on September 21, 2025, 01:49:35 PM
The 62 missal changes were approved by Pius XII so technically ok.  (As far as the calendar goes).  I can see why the SVs go with last week because they reject the 62.  Not good or bad, it’s just an explanation for the difference.
But sedes believe that Pius 12th is a valid Pope. Why wouldn't they accept ember days as this week? And isn't it a mortal sin to skip if you don't believe in the v2 church?
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Offline Giovanni Berto

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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2025, 05:16:17 PM »
Quote from: AnthonyPadua on September 21, 2025, 03:37:38 PM
But sedes believe that Pius 12th is a valid Pope. Why wouldn't they accept ember days as this week? And isn't it a mortal sin to skip if you don't believe in the v2 church?

There were many Papal indults that dispensed people from a certain country or a certain diocese from this or that fasting or abstinence day. It is very difficuld to find this kind of information online. I don't know the practical rules for Sedevacantists these days, since these indults changed from place to place. You basically have to find out what was the situation on your area when Pius XII died, which is quite tricky.
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Offline Seraphina

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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2025, 05:50:34 PM »
Hmmm. I’m using a calendar that I got for free from MHT Seminary, (+Bp. Sanborn). I observed the Ember Days this past week, although I don’t technically need to fast (not sure about abstain but why not?) due to my age. For health reasons, I couldn’t do the full Lenten fast this year, but short term I can still do. 
I livestreamed SSPX Sunday Mass yesterday (in Eastern time zone, USA) from Australia where it was already Sunday morning. The priest announced Ember Days upcoming this week, but also to put ahead your clocks by one hour and not be one hour late for Mass in two weeks. 
:jester: In most of the US, we go on Daylight Savings Time on November 2nd, not October 2nd, and we “Fall” back one hour. If we forget, we’ll get to Mass an hour early! 
So, Australians can add an hour to their lives by flying to the US in two weeks?  ✈️ 🌎 🤔 Or have I got that backwards? 
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