Author Topic: SSPX Expanding NFP? (Read 4747 times)

Last Tradhican · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2019, 09:38:23 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 03, 2019, 07:17:26 AM

Someone sent me this interesting email:

“Hi Sean:

I took part in a pretty discouraging discussion several years ago with maybe a dozen alumnae from my SSPX-affiliated school. I was nearly alone of those who took part who knew the “old” rules: 1) with the guidance of the priest 2) for *grave* reasons, aka life or death and 3) for no more than 2 years.

Nearly all of the girls who took part, especially the younger ones, had been taught by SSPX priests in a variety of parishes that as long as the spouses agree, NFP could be used for reasons of health, spacing and finances. But this was quite vague.

Vatican II punishment upon the lukewarm extends to any lukewarm Catholic whether SSPX, Sede, Independent, or Novus ordo indult

SusanneT · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2019, 06:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 03, 2019, 06:57:34 AM

So this is entirely subjective, or are there objective criteria?

If having more children does in fact pose a serious issue, then abstinence is a possibility. People act as if having sɛҳuąƖ intercourse is some inalienable God-given right.

So well said. Please traditionalist men, do not accept the feminist perversion which is birth control.

tdrev123 · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2019, 07:11:03 PM »

http://archives.sspx.org/against_sound_bites/rhythm_unhappy_compromise.htm

This is the 2003 SSPX. NFP is destroyed in theory and logic by a priest who believes in NFP.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2019, 07:51:10 PM »

Quote from: ByzCat3000 on November 03, 2019, 09:30:58 AM

Isn’t NFP in essence timed abstinence though?

No, it's not the same thing, not formally, since it entails attempting to enjoy the secondary ends of marital relations while excluding the primary ... that sinful subordination of the primary end to the secondary ends condemned by Pius XI. This is why various forces at Vatican II attempted to elevate the secondary ends to co-primary ends.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #24 on:** November 03, 2019, 07:54:05 PM »

Lefebvre condemns Fr. Couture/neoSSPX (wish I would have put this in my book):

“Cast away, I beg of you, anything which impedes children from entering your family. There is no greater gift that the Good God can bestow upon your hearths than to have many children. Have big families. it is the glory of the Catholic Church—the large family! It has been so in Canada, it has been so in Holland, it has been so in Switzerland and it has been so in France—everywhere the large family was the joy and prosperity of the Church. There are that many more chosen souls for heaven! Therefore do not limit, I beg you, the gifts of God; do not listen to these abominable slogans which destroy the family, which ruin health, which ruin the household, and provoke divorce.“
https://sspx.org/en/marriage-from-writings-of-archbishop-lefebvre

Guess Fr. Couture and the neoSSPX NFP brigade considered Lefebvre imprudent?

Ps: In just the couple months since my book was published, we have seen the SSPX promoting NFP, having indult priests saying Mass in their African chapels, and a diocesan priest notorious for his group porn addiction therapy sessions and theology of the body, who believes we should invite the Lord to view our impure thoughts with us, be invited to advise SSPX faithful.

Anyone know how to post a kamikaze GIF?

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