Author Topic: Seminary Cornerstone (Read 11558 times)

Famous · « **Reply #15 on:** April 23, 2013, 10:08:26 AM »

"Bishop Fellay and his gang" :wink:

Famous · « **Reply #16 on:** April 23, 2013, 03:45:36 PM »

Comment changer cela?

«C’est avant tout, je pense, le rôle des prêtres. Nous ne travaillons pas pour nous. Mais pour la formation des futurs prêtres, pour la gloire de Dieu et pour le rayonnement de l’Église. Vous savez, j’ai rencontré de nombreux protestants ici; si vous connaissiez leur attente… Nombre d’entre eux m’ont ainsi confié leur espoir de nous voir bientôt célébrer nos offices ici, et quelques-uns m’ont même dit attendre cet événement pour faire le point sur leur propre conversion. Alors parfois, c’est vrai, il y a des réticences étonnantes…»

Le pasteur protestant, Joe Chambers, qui est aussi le supervisor local, à mi-chemin entre le maire et le député, appuie cette observation: «Nous sommes heureux de voir arriver ici ces prêtres catholiques. Ce sont des hommes de Dieu, visiblement.»

Et ce séminaire?

«C’est un bon projet, beaucoup de valeur. Un bon rayonnement d’un point de vue économique c’est certain, mais spirituel surtout. C’est un projet fantastique: je les aiderai autant que je peux.»
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How to change this?

"That's all, I think, the role of the priests. We do not work for us. But for the formation of the future priests, for the glory of God and the influence of the Church. You know, I met many Protestants here; if you know their expectations... Many of them have told me and their hope that soon we celebrate our offices here, and some have even told me to wait this event to take stock of their own conversion. So sometimes, it's true, there are amazing reluctance..."

The Protestant pastor, Joe Chambers, who is also the local supervisor, halfway between the mayor and the deputy, supports this observation: "We are glad to see these Catholic priests here. These are men of God, obviously."

And this seminary?
"This is a good project, a lot of value. A good radiation from an economic point of view this is certain, but especially spiritual. This is a fantastic project: I will help as much as I can."
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http://www.dici.org/actualites/benediction-des-cloches-au-futur-seminaire-des-etats-unis/

http://www.dici.org/multimedia/benediction-des-cloches-au-futur-seminaire-des-etats-unis-diaporama/

http://www.dici.org/multimedia/etats-unis-projet-de-nouveau-seminaire/
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Matto · « **Reply #17 on:** April 23, 2013, 03:47:57 PM »

Quote from: Famous

"Bishop Fellay and his gang" :wink:

This is a great picture.

wallflower · « **Reply #18 on:** April 23, 2013, 07:55:07 PM »

These speculations betray just how internalized is their acceptance of VII and the NO.

I really wish they would take their own advice and stop running the course of the SSPX on speculations of what so-and-so told them and stick to the facts. The facts are that Rome has not changed and has confirmed that beyond question with the latest conclave.

The only thing Rome/NO may have changed is their approach to the SSPX, trying to be friendly. But as long as they deny the reason for the SSPX's existence, it's all a superficial friendship. They want traditionalists, but traditionalists without teeth, traditionalists who are not a threat to VII, therefore not traditionalists at all.

bernadette · « **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2013, 09:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Machabees

Quote from: Incredulous
Quote from: Wessex
Because I believe for these priests the Society is their home wherever it ends up! The institution is more important than the faith! I guess the leadership decided that the market for its product would come from the conservative side of the conciliar church once a deal was struck. This investment will not be allowed to fail even if it pulls kids off streets.

The seminary project looks like a disaster case study from a Business 101 class:

Ever businessman knows you never allow the accountant (bursar) to lead the corporation's marketing strategy. It's common sense.

Big business decision failures typically happen when a company does not have the correct checks & balances built into their organization.

Bp. Fellay may be good at managing money, but did he consult with the Holy Ghost on his strategy to evangelize newChurch ?

Whoever led Msgr. Fellay to this scheme was deceiving him. He bet the "SSPX farm" on a conciliar "New-Springtime" fantasy plan.

Yes, and adding to this, that now the SSPX leaders will also be in a large financial debt in following this "fantasy", if not by the cost of building the new seminary (remember Bishop Fellay did receive the millions of dollars from the philanthropist banker), that the seminary will also hold a large dept of maintenance cost(s) to run that place and to keep up the grounds...who is going to pay for that.

So when you run a business, it's the operational costs that are the make it or break it for survival.

They'll have to hike up the cost of seminary training...it will probably double or triple!

(that picture is nauseatingly corny by the way....)