Author Topic: New SSPX.org Website: (Read 14447 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #50 on:** June 19, 2013, 04:39:58 PM »

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In a last effort to see if I'm still barking up the wrong tree, could anyone
tell me if the following image is the one that is getting everyone all
upset?

I posted copies of three of the four cycling banner images on the linked
website, but I omitted this one because I couldn't see how it would be
the one in question, but perhaps it is, and I was wrong?

I mean, it is the most non-descript of the four, and being so empty of
content, I presumed it would not be controversial. Maybe I presumed
incorrectly?

(I just realized there is the shadow of a person's thumb in the top left
corner of this color scanned image, as if they were trying to get the
'tilted' look of having the paper curved when the scan was taken, and
they didn't bother to get their lousy finger out of the way -- like when
your finger partially covers the lens on a camera when you snap a photo.)

That is the fourth banner on the page and the following are the other
three:

Quote from: Machabees

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You said:

So let’s see their new “Traditional Catholic” image on their new sspx.org website: http://www.sspx.org/

In first appearance, I am struck to see the distracting MODERN art on the overlay of their homepage; yup, MODERN art overlays on a Traditional Catholic website; that’s some “updating”. Seems to be in similar spirit of “updating” as like the new Cathedral in Fatima, or at Lourdes. Is this updating also from that pagan PR firm that Fr. Rostand is ponying up to?

Follwing your link, I found a few images including this one:

Is that what you're talking about? Or when you say, "MODERN art overlays"
is that something else?

I'm not sure I understand what you're upset about here.

Is it this?

Or this?

I'm trying to understand.

It is the distracting modern design of the curved "transparent shark fins" as an overlay on their homepage.

So similar to the modern art found in today's modern cathedrals.

If the N-SSPX wants to act like conciliar Rome, I guess they are subtly trying to look like them.

If you would actually read, instead of mindlessly attack, you would know that the "Modern art overlay" is the "two Hearts" logo of the SSPX.

http://sspx.org/en/hom-slide-identity

It's nonsensical posts like the one quoted that eventually caused me to stop taking the Resistance seriously.

If it is supposed to "look like two hearts" then let it "look" like two hearts; NOT a distorted, mindless interpretation of "two hearts".

It figures, that someone has to go and search out in their own website what that "transparent shark fin" is suppose to look like...it is typical of the N-SSPX, you have to go "searching" to find some answers!

Until they fix it to make it "look" like "two hearts" it is still a piece of abstract modern art -period- just like today's new-faith cathedrals.

Is this the disputed "two hearts" that looks like 'a distorted, mindless
interpretation of "two hearts"?'

I hope I'm not further offending anyone by asking more questions.

Stella · « **Reply #51 on:** June 19, 2013, 05:07:41 PM »

They answer everything here: (my emphases)

How did we decide on this new format? Below you will find a brief response.

Who are we?

Before beginning these renovations, we asked the basic question: What is the SSPX all about?

Under this broad heading, we drew up 160 more specific questions. For example, we considered: Which key words could define the SSPX? What is the reason for its existence? What makes the SSPX special and unique? Does the SSPX have any enemies? What image does the SSPX project today? How do others recognize the SSPX? What kind of audiences are we seeking to reach?

Four hallmarks (hint: they aren't One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic)

As we answered these questions, four main qualities repeatedly factored into our answers:

Purity: The combat for the faith in its integrity is the core mission of the SSPX. From the beginning, guided by its founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, the SSPX has constantly promoted, defended, and upheld the purity of Catholic teaching. We do not tolerate any stain of compromise, neither in principles nor in actions.

Intelligence: In order to manifest this profoundly Catholic faith, the SSPX studies and preaches the time-honored traditional teachings of the Church. We strive to present the truth in an unbiased, responsible, rational, and clear manner.

Selflessness: The Society is a work of the Church and thus exists to serve. Specifically, we serve the Church by maintaining its core traditions. We protect the treasures of the Catholic Faith, regardless of difficulty or misguided opposition. We sacrifice ourselves completely for this cause. We seek God’s glory and honor, along with the salvation of souls, above all else.

Noble Beauty: As the SSPX fights to maintain the integrity and purity of the Catholic faith, it must always keep in mind its final end: the honor and glory of God. God, moreover, is the source of all goodness and beauty; therefore we value and appreciate all that is truly good and beautiful. We seek especially to share the treasures of the faith with others, thus communicating to them the beautiful life of grace.

Manifesting who we are

We have tried to incorporate these four essential qualities into our new website and into the refurbished Angelus magazine; thus we developed a new look with our four hallmarks in mind. Here are the key features of our publications:

Pure white: The dominant color is a clean white, corresponding to the purity of Catholic doctrine.

Intelligence: Priority is given to content. We communicate our message clearly, and we present information directly. Text is placed on a peaceful white background. Sober and straightforward typography keeps the reader focused on our rich content. The design is devoid of all superfluity.

An inconspicuous but unique presence: Our sole identifying marks are:

the subtle SSPX logo which appears on top of all our publications,
the Two Hearts emblem which usually appears in the top right corner, and
the delicate shadow overlay of the Two Hearts which serves as an authenticating watermark stretched across the entire page.

Noble beauty: There are only a few subtle colors and designs used to create the settings for our content. All the beauty and quality of our publications must, therefore, be found in our vibrant visual aids and, of course, in our profound message itself. We often use pictures to create a lively and intriguing ambiance, hoping that sensory beauty will aid our audience in appreciating the more profound intellectual beauty we offer.

Hatchc · « **Reply #52 on:** June 19, 2013, 05:12:14 PM »

Looks like they're using a Wordpress CMS theme.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #53 on:** June 19, 2013, 05:14:51 PM »

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FWIW the new website system has a page devoted to answering
questions about the new design, in many particulars:

http://sspx.org/en/media/photos/clear-appearance-sspx-1782

Perhaps members who are upset with the way things look could
go to that page and find the thing that's bothering them
addressed?

A new look for the SSPX
You are here:

Home
HOM-Slide Identity

The way a business or religious organization presents itself is very important, and developing a solid public presence requires careful reflection and planning. Below we explain the driving forces and ideals behind our new series of publications.

The goal of these updates is to provide you with accurate information about the SSPX and its apostolate in a timely manner.

These ascetic and organizational advancements thus promote the unchanging mission of the SSPX by making information more accessible and by presenting it more clearly.

How did we decide on this new format? Below you will find a brief response.

The Two Hearts

You want to know more about the Style of this website?
The story of the Two Hearts
4 Hallmarks
Visual format

(Following that link you find the following words):

Spreading the Catholic faith

Clear appearance of the SSPX

The way a business or religious organization presents itself is very important, and developing a solid public presence requires careful reflection and planning.

Here we explain the driving forces and ideals behind our new series of publications.

When you go to that page, and you click on the image of the two hearts
in the middle of the page, a slide show loads that describes where these
so-called 'shark fins' come from. They show a light source, shining on
the two hearts logo, and the shadow that is consequent, a larger image,
and then they take parts of that larger shadow image to use for
'overlays' (they don't use that term though) for stationery, website pages,
publications, ad banners, and all that.

Is this process of imaging and shadowing and partitioning what members
are finding offensive?

Here are some of the slides:

Nickolas · « **Reply #54 on:** June 19, 2013, 08:22:15 PM »

Not that the Society will come to Cathinfo for a review of their website, but having spent the last week or so navigating around the site, my simple review is that it is one of the most boring and laborious sites I have ever seen.

White: Color is the name of the game on the internet, in fact, all media. Color grabs your attention and makes you want to dig deeper. I read the explanation of the white and purity idea, but really, don't tell me what you are trying to be, be it. Don't need to try to prove it with your color scheme. Trying too hard here and missing the target. Same with the Angelus Magazine cover. Again, trying too hard but missing the mark when it comes to content as far as "purity" of thought.

Font: The font size is too small and font choice is just plain BORING. Of the literally dozens and dozens of interesting fonts out there, the one chosen is probably the least interesting that could come about. Yes, yes, it is easy to read, but my personal attraction to old books is the classic style of print used in them, even Gothic.

Too many clicks: Is it my imagination, or is it more difficult to navigate around? Makes you want to give up and not bother, given the white washed effect the whole mundane production has become.

Angelus Press: when I click on the Angelus Press blog site, I get a pop up notice the site has a "trojan horse". This was mentioned over a week ago, yet it is still there. Is this intentional or are the web designers just not up to the task? One would think feedback would have reached the offices of the web designer by now.

All in all, compared with the old classic look of the now "archived" site, the new one is a dud.

Now if the SSPX leadership is smart, they will make an objective study to see how folks like the site and be ready, and not afraid, to back off and realize they missed the mark. They changed all 4 tires when none were worn out. If they behave like political folks, however, they will ask each other and some friends how they like it, all will look at each other (not wanting to disappoint) and nod their heads that it is the best thing since sliced bread.