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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #215 on: November 16, 2019, 06:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 06:15:25 PM
Note:   I hope that everyone understands that "gymnastics" here is a general term for "sport" and is not limited to what is popularly known as gymnastics today.
Gratuitous BS.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #216 on: November 16, 2019, 06:38:57 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on November 16, 2019, 05:36:47 PM
By this standard, you might judge me a deficient parent for encouraging my daughters in a particular combat (not "sport") martial art.  I intend for all the women in our family to be competent in dropping and injuring any inappropriate male (or dyke) activity through "physical contact." Yes, demolish. They also shoot… with purpose.

Not at all.

I won't judge anyone personally, since I am not privy to the context or to the prudential judgments you have made with regard to you family and your children, of which you are the head.  I'm merely about understanding the principles.  Their application to your situation is between you, God, and your confessor.

Also, I believe that any caveats can be outweighed by a proportionate reason.  I do not object to this type of activity with a view towards the girls being able to defend themselves and their children.  There would, however, be no proportionate reason to allow a girl to play football that I can imagine.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #217 on: November 16, 2019, 06:41:44 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on November 16, 2019, 05:50:52 PM
He says it is also public exhibitionism which impairs girls modesty, not merely their attire.

:facepalm: ... public exhibition, not exhibitionism.

What this means is that they should play in public.  This implies that it's OK for them to play in a private setting.  If some girls were to play basketball or volleyball in the gym of a girls' school, that would not violate this teaching.  No mention is made of sports being incompatible with femininity.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #218 on: November 16, 2019, 06:41:56 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 06:17:44 PM
Dude, this quote from Pius XI clearly undermines your position that gymnastics (aka sports) is illicit per se.  Pope XI's only constraint is the protection of modesty ... in public exhibition.

I love how when every time Johnson finds himself in a corner, he pulls out the old 'Feeneyite heretic" card ... as if Feeneyism has anything even remotely to do with this subject.
Nice try:
The pope is saying that whatever “gymnastics” is, it is not something which can be permitted if it threatens feminine comportment in public.
Can you contrive some kind of gymnastics which doesn’t do that?
No.
As for your Feeneyite sedevacantism, it is relevant insofar as it testifies to your heresy and proud judgments, which make you a notoriously unreliable commentator on anything.
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Offline ByzCat3000

Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« Reply #219 on: November 16, 2019, 06:43:31 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on November 16, 2019, 06:38:57 PM
Not at all.

I won't judge anyone personally, since I am not privy to the context or to the prudential judgments you have made with regard to you family and your children, of which you are the head.  I'm merely about understanding the principles.  Their application to your situation is between you, God, and your confessor.

Also, I believe that any caveats can be outweighed by a proportionate reason.  I do not object to this type of activity with a view towards the girls being able to defend themselves and their children.  There would, however, be no proportionate reason to allow a girl to play football that I can imagine.
I don't see why it would be immoral for women to play football unless they were playing with (or maybe around) men.

What am I missing?
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