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Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
« on: August 02, 2019, 09:21:54 PM »
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  • The independent "traditional Catholic" school, Holy Family Academy (HFA), which opened for school year 2018-2019 and which was started by the former ruling family of Our Lady of Sorrows (OLOS) in Phoenix has already sold out it's "traditional Catholic" identity for the Almighty Dollar and so the students can play league sports!  

    HFA is led by a female Principal who is 100% Novus Ordo (short skirts and all), the academy is in the final stages of being approved by the Diocese of Phoenix as the first "Diocesan Traditional Catholic School", the local Priests from the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter mission Church are saying Holy Mass and hearing Confessions there, and the sports teams joined up with "91st Psalm Christian School" of Phoenix (Protestant School) so they could field a baseball, volleyball, and soccer teams!    

    Diocesan money and tuition deals soon to come and then......... liturgical dance lessons for the kids!!!

    The poor, young, Catholic souls of HFA are being scandalized!!!  The girls volleyball actually had to wear baby blue uniforms reading "91st Psalm Christian Church"!  "Pastor" Cunningham of the evangelical church (Southgate Christian Church which owns 91st Psalm school) serves as the pitching Coach for the "traditional Catholic" boys baseball team.


    http://holyfamilyacad.org/2019/01/from-the-chairman-holy-family-academy-seeking-recognition-from-bishop-olmsted/
    http://holyfamilyacad.org/2019/05/visit-and-blessing-of-frs-passo-and-malain/
    http://91pcs.com/
    https://sglife.org/

    Dear St. Patrick!  How did this get so out of whack?  SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!  At least thanks to the new families who have recently moved to Phoenix, OLOS Academy is growing again and will soon not even be phased by the exodus of the families that left for HFA.

    I shalt now sit back and await a snide comment from my new arch-nemesis, the TownCrier!

    Cheers and may you tip a pint up in my memory!
    :cheers:
    “They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn’t want to be broken.” - Bobby Sands

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #1 on: August 02, 2019, 10:04:58 PM »
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  • Somewhere here on CI, there is a thread within the last several months about a conversation I had with an SSPX priest who, I reported, told me that the main reason these families split from OLOS to form a new school was because the SSPX wouldn't allow them to participate in girls sports.

    I was quickly excoriated for reporting that conversation, and told there were other reasons for the split.

    Now several months later, the OP is reporting almost exactly what the SSPX priest told me.

    Interesting.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2019, 12:37:54 AM »
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  • H4H - I think they won't be fazed by the exodus.
    "I will lead her into solitude and there I will speak to her heart.  Osee 2:14

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2019, 02:56:49 AM »
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  • The independent "traditional Catholic" school, Holy Family Academy (HFA), which opened for school year 2018-2019 and which was started by the former ruling family of Our Lady of Sorrows (OLOS) in Phoenix has already sold out it's "traditional Catholic" identity for the Almighty Dollar and so the students can play league sports!  

    HFA is led by a female Principal who is 100% Novus Ordo (short skirts and all), the academy is in the final stages of being approved by the Diocese of Phoenix as the first "Diocesan Traditional Catholic School", the local Priests from the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter mission Church are saying Holy Mass and hearing Confessions there, and the sports teams joined up with "91st Psalm Christian School" of Phoenix (Protestant School) so they could field a baseball, volleyball, and soccer teams!    

    Diocesan money and tuition deals soon to come and then......... liturgical dance lessons for the kids!!!

    The poor, young, Catholic souls of HFA are being scandalized!!!  The girls volleyball actually had to wear baby blue uniforms reading "91st Psalm Christian Church"!  "Pastor" Cunningham of the evangelical church (Southgate Christian Church which owns 91st Psalm school) serves as the pitching Coach for the "traditional Catholic" boys baseball team.


    http://holyfamilyacad.org/2019/01/from-the-chairman-holy-family-academy-seeking-recognition-from-bishop-olmsted/
    http://holyfamilyacad.org/2019/05/visit-and-blessing-of-frs-passo-and-malain/
    http://91pcs.com/
    https://sglife.org/

    Dear St. Patrick!  How did this get so out of whack?  SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!  At least thanks to the new families who have recently moved to Phoenix, OLOS Academy is growing again and will soon not even be phased by the exodus of the families that left for HFA.

    I shalt now sit back and await a snide comment from my new arch-nemesis, the TownCrier!

    Cheers and may you tip a pint up in my memory!
    :cheers:
    So, they left OLOS to go with the Vatican II sect. I didn't know that DETAIL. By their deeds you shall know them

    On the other hand, the SSPX hierarchy is working hard to join the Vatican II sect, so OLOS potentially can end up following in the footsteps of the "Fraternity of St. Peter school, the independent "traditional Catholic" school, Holy Family Academy (HFA)".
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2019, 09:55:34 AM »
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  • The laity who attend SSPX churches will sooner or later face two choices, unless they lose their faith altogether.

    (1) Join the Vatican II church before or after the SSPX joins the Vatican II church in approximately two years unless an awesome miracle happens.

    (2) Join the Resistance, CMRI, or one of the other groups of Traditional Catholics.

    If all the laity in the SSPX were to pray a novena devoutly before the Feast of the Assumption (Dormition) starting on August 6, 2019, perhaps Our Lady would intercede to Christ our God to save them. However, do not stop praying this prayer, but let it become part of your daily prayers and daily inspiration constantly imploring Our Lady to save us.

    REMEMBER, O most gracious Virgin Mary,
    that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection,
    implored thy help, or sought thy intercession was left unaided.

    Inspired with this confidence, I fly to thee,
    O Virgin of virgins, my Mother;
    to thee do I come; before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful.

    O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions,
    but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen.
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2019, 11:10:29 AM »
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  • Well said, Maria Regina!  The Blessed Virgin can and will always help us when we implore Her.  She truly is our hope!
    “They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn’t want to be broken.” - Bobby Sands

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #6 on: August 03, 2019, 11:44:09 AM »
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  • In all me days at OLOS in Phoenix and then after leaving the city and coming back, I think the OLOS Academy may better positioned now to grow than it ever has been.  There is a feeling of renewed dedication to Tradition, there are new large families, and the negative nellie's who for so many years wanted the Academy to be their personal family school, and even their little piggyback any time repairs or grounds work was needed, ARE GONE!  Some folk worry the Church and Academy will be harmed by their departure because they were considered "large benefactors"; however, even though they donated large sums of money occasionally - via their family construction company they also got richer by way of putting that money they had donated right back into their own silk-lined pockets (new Church construction, performing arts center, baseball field, etc.).  Money manipulation... hmm, I think me knows a certain accountant who was the Church and Academy Treasurer for many years until the crybaby didn't get his way and so he started HFA!  The same accountant started his own construction company and its first project was the new Church building and then the performing arts center.  This accountant awarded the contract to his self!  See a conflict of interest?

    Me grandmother who came here from Belfast always said "Money that goes in a circle ends up in the same pockets it first came from and no one will ever be the wiser!"  Ay Granny, you was a smart gal... may God have mercy on your dear soul!
    “They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn’t want to be broken.” - Bobby Sands

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #7 on: August 03, 2019, 01:52:44 PM »
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  • Believe it or not I agree with everything absolutely everything  you have wrote EXCEPT you allude to the idea that with the ruling elite gone from the school it and church will grow .The ruling elite are still at the church are they not ? and besides that the damage has been done .Unfinished and shoddy construction and a huge dept we are being blackmailed into paying . That church isn't growing no matter what they say from the pulpit . That place looks like a Novus Ordo warehouse and we average 300 a Sunday WOW! that is almost as many as we had at the old church. you remember right ? it is the building turned in the performing arts center so the ruling elite construction company could make a couple of extra million off us  


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    Re: Holy Family Academy - More Nominal Catholics in Phoenix
    « Reply #8 on: August 03, 2019, 03:10:43 PM »
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  • The problem every parish has, whether Traditional or Novus Ordo, is with those who are culturally Catholic.

    Oh, yes, they do donate because their parents supported the Church, and they want to be baptized, married, and buried as Catholics. Furthermore, they want their children to also be baptized, married, and buried as Catholics.

    However, when it comes to living the daily life of faith, striving to avoid mortal sins and even venial sins, observing the Ten Commandments, and praying their daily prayers, well, they do not have the time. They give their hour to God on Sunday, and perhaps say their prayers before meals, but that is it.

    It is these nominal Catholics who scandalize and weaken the life of the Church.

    Some of these nominal Catholics compare themselves with Nancy Pelosi saying, "I am not like her." However, Nancy Pelosi is not even a nominal Catholic. She is lost as she publicly supports abortion and infanticide. Instead, these nominal Catholics are like the Pharisees who say, "Thank God, I am not like that sinner over there. I support the Church; I even donated that lovely stained glass window over there. See my name is on it."

    Are the SSPX priests in Phoenix addressing this situation of nominal Catholics? Are they offering homilies to help convert these nominal Catholics to a life of sanctity. After all, we are all called to be saints.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #9 on: August 03, 2019, 05:30:24 PM »
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  • Avoid the entire mess.  Homeschool!

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #10 on: August 03, 2019, 06:43:22 PM »
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  • Avoid the entire mess.  Homeschool!
    I agree as do many families at OLoS  


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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #11 on: August 03, 2019, 07:01:58 PM »
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  • What's wrong with boys playing sports? 

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #12 on: August 03, 2019, 08:50:10 PM »
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  • What's wrong with boys playing sports?
    Nothing!  Depending upon the sport, there’s nothing wrong with girls playing sports, either.
    Here’s the problem.  Once a school joins a sports league, the players WILL be exposed directly and deliberately to co-ed teams, to single sex teams that wear immodest athletic uniforms, to parents, friends, family of other teams who may behave in an unCatholic manner.  They will have to accept and obey the coaches of the competing schools—-again, a possible problem.  When a school joins an organization, the participating students presume approval of the activities and practices.  Unless there is a sports league where the players will not be exposed to major departures from Catholic morality, the children will get the message that the school, the church, and their parents approve.  If they have found a sports league with such high standards, I’d like to know about it!  
    If the parents’ motivation is for their child to go to college on a sports scholarship, for example, because the child truly has extraordinary talent, then they should enroll him in a team as a private individual in order that he alone is exposed to various unCatholic issues.  The parents can prepare, teach, and control when and with whom he competes.  As a rule, I do not think major sports is a proper vocational plan for a traditional Catholic, but there can be exceptions. If parents want the school to belong to a sports league for public prestige, shame on them.  They need not be surprised when their star athlete leaves religion upon turning 18 or moving out.
    Why not organize an intramural sports program?  It needn’t be confined to one small school.  Homeschooled children from the chapel, children from the chapel-run school, even community children whose parents are willing to abide by Catholic standards can play.  No, it won’t be like playing sports for a big public high school.  It won’t lead to prestige or money, but so what?  
    The purpose of sports, IMHO, should be to foster physical health, coordination, mastery of a physical skill, teamwork, camaraderie, and good sportsmanship.  NOT acceptable, co-ed teams above 3rd grade, immodest or unisex uniforms, obnoxious parental behavior like booing, fighting, cussing out the coach...sports not suited to sex, ie, girls wrestling, boys cheerleading, being overly competitive to the point where the sport usurps more important activities or monopolizes time, or a sport that involves great expense so that money is misused or children who’d like to participate cannot afford it.  
    In my experience, intramural sports can be clean, healthy fun.  A sports league?  Most of the time, the wrong things are emphasized.  Did not St. Paul say that physical exercise profits little?  He did not say, “not at all,” lest someone accuse me of being a Jansenist.  He said, “a little.”  So, yes, go ahead and play a little sports, but keep it balance.  Will playing help me save my soul?  The answer can be yes if the fruit is on the good list.

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #13 on: August 03, 2019, 08:57:35 PM »
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  • Most sports leagues require that children have practice and/or games on Sunday morning, which means that the child and their parents cannot attend Mass or must attend Mass wearing their sports clothes and then leave early. It is a bad example to other families, whose children may become jealous and complain, "If Paul can participate in a sports event on Sundays, then why can't I."

    Even if some games/practice are only held one Sunday per month and the rest on Saturdays, it is still a slippery slope. One Sunday per month can easily morph into every Sunday.

    If the league wins and goes on to a national event, then the child and parents must travel during the weekend and attend mandatory events on Sunday.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Holy Family Academy - ANOTHER SCANDAL IN PHOENIX
    « Reply #14 on: August 03, 2019, 10:15:16 PM »
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  • Most sports leagues require that children have practice and/or games on Sunday morning, which means that the child and their parents cannot attend Mass or must attend Mass wearing their sports clothes and then leave early. It is a bad example to other families, whose children may become jealous and complain, "If Paul can participate in a sports event on Sundays, then why can't I."

    Even if some games/practice are only held one Sunday per month and the rest on Saturdays, it is still a slippery slope. One Sunday per month can easily morph into every Sunday.

    If the league wins and goes on to a national event, then the child and parents must travel during the weekend and attend mandatory events on Sunday.
    What you say is certainly true of public school sports and of many private, secular leagues.  Joining a Christian sports league eliminates the Sunday problem, but these are mainly comprised of Protestant schools.  Often, Catholics aren’t welcome because we’re not considered Christians, especially by the type of Protestants with whom we share many moral standards!  Example, Independent Baptists, Holiness congregations, Conservative Pentecostals, and many small, traditionally black and southern state churches have standards of modesty, speech, dress, respect for authority as traditional Catholics.  The problem is that they won’t accept Catholics!  
    The Protestants who will accept Catholics are liberal; they accept everyone!  One may as well play public schools and novus ordo schools.
    Public school sports was not always as it is now.  When I was in grade six, I tried out for volleyball at a friend’s insistence.  I made the team and she didn’t.  I wasn’t into sports, so my parents were a bit surprised, but I played volleyball for two years and enjoyed it, both games and practices.  There were no Saturday or Sunday activities.  Games and practices were M-F in the afternoon.  We were a middle of the road team, didn’t win the championship, but didn’t lose every game, either.  I didn’t play in grade eight because I chose another extracurricular, the Outdoors Club. When my sister hit grade six, she wanted to try out for field hockey and soccer.  I was already a high school senior, not at all involved in school sports.  My sister made the soccer team and all of a sudden, there were arguments about missing Mass—-never allowed by Dad, and staying over various friends’ houses for the weekend to accommodate Saturday practices and games instead of going camping with the family.  Too often, she got her way with the resulting alienation.  She’d agree to go to Mass, either Saturday vigil or Sunday, but often that didn’t happen.  There’d be excuses, headache, upset stomach, got a flat tire on the bike and it was too late to walk...So then Dad required a Mass bulletin. Well, one needn’t actually attend Mass to get a bulletin!  She had a boyfriend who’d supply one, or she’d pick one up on the way to or from school since the church was a block away.  By grade seven, after screaming, yelling fights, a priest whom Dad consulted said she should not be made to attend church(!?!), so she pretty much left off all religion except the five classes in the evening for Confirmation. Dad and Mom insisted in the hope that it would eventually bring her back.  Sadly, I have serious doubt as to the validity at that point in time.  
    Did sports cause the entire disaster?  No, of course not, but it didn’t help, and was definitely used by the devil as one more tool.

     

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