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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #610 on: July 13, 2026, 06:40:33 PM »
That's all you losers care about.

Rather than the Truth...

Those scores are sincere Catholics responding to the fecal matter you're posting on this forum.

 We're on this forum to discern the truth. not to propagandize fellow forum members.

The score means your sensus Catholicus is failing miserably. It actually is not to be found in you.

The score ultimately means you're a pseudo-trad loser.

The only question we have is:

"When will Matthew gives his contributing members a break and jettison you from the forum
?'

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #611 on: July 13, 2026, 11:14:50 PM »
Certainly the handwriting samples lean in the direction of forgery, but it's not even entirely relevant, since it's very clear that the Archbishop was under some form of duress and/or control in those later months.  You can almost see a glazed look in his eyes, where for all we know he was even being drugged.  Commie agents who despised him would not be averse to those types of tactics.  Cardinal Mindszenty signed false confessions after torture, thought he was able to sneak in a little mark that he had told people beforehand would indicate that the signatures had been obtained under duress.

And it's doubly irrelevant that even IF the Archbishop had succuмbed to lesser degrees of pressure, since that would have had absolutely no bearing upon whether or not he could validly consecrate bishops back in the 1981 timeframe.  There was zero evidence ever presented from that era to suggest anything other than that he remained remarkably sharp and lucid, and for at least a year afterwards from all the reports of his time with Bishop Vezelis.  Not the tiniest hint of senility, forgetfullness, memory issues, etc.  Zero.

But Scuмmage has no problems throwing handfuls of excrement at the wall, imitating the tactics of Bishop Kelly, hoping that he could stir up enough FUD about the Archbishop to have people question the validity of the Orders he conferred.  +Thuc consecrated +Guerard des Lauriers and +Carmona / +Zamora in 1981, then ended up with +Vezelis, and showed no signes of any mental impairement, only to be kidnapped in 1984 and then die by the end of the year, despite having been an pretty decent health prior to that.  So nothing that happened in 1984 has any bearing on his mental state and ability to validly consecrate in 1981.


Offline Persto

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #612 on: July 14, 2026, 07:43:06 AM »
Certainly the handwriting samples lean in the direction of forgery, but it's not even entirely relevant, since it's very clear that the Archbishop was under some form of duress and/or control in those later months.  You can almost see a glazed look in his eyes, where for all we know he was even being drugged.  Commie agents who despised him would not be averse to those types of tactics.  Cardinal Mindszenty signed false confessions after torture, thought he was able to sneak in a little mark that he had told people beforehand would indicate that the signatures had been obtained under duress.

And it's doubly irrelevant that even IF the Archbishop had succuмbed to lesser degrees of pressure, since that would have had absolutely no bearing upon whether or not he could validly consecrate bishops back in the 1981 timeframe.  There was zero evidence ever presented from that era to suggest anything other than that he remained remarkably sharp and lucid, and for at least a year afterwards from all the reports of his time with Bishop Vezelis.  Not the tiniest hint of senility, forgetfullness, memory issues, etc.  Zero.

Bp. Cua and Abp. Thuc
(For more background information on Bp. Cua see page 39 on this thread)

I want to emphasize that Ladislaus' point about Communist tactics is very important in understanding what Abp. Thuc was up against.

Bp. Cua pictured above with Abp. Thuc, was most likely a sleeper Communist agent due to the fact that from "1958-1964 Bp. Cua went to France to learn about and live with the Ho Chi Minh Buddhist Association French Love (Foyer de Charite). And in 1958, well before Vatican II,  how is it that a "Catholic" priest gets permission to go live with Buddhists? It indicates that not just Bp. Cua, but also other Vietnamese clergy and bishops were sleeper agents also.

This means that he was living and working for 6 years with one of the most influential Communist sleeper agents in the history of the Vietnam war, namely:  Thich Nhat Hanh.  I am going to do a series of posts on Thich Nhat Hanh to show how evil a man he was- in spite of his facade of a smiling face, and it will become more clear that Bp. Cua was part of this Communist group and their work. 

Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #613 on: July 14, 2026, 12:32:44 PM »
Thank you for all your efforts in unraveling this complex history.

Most Americans are clueless of Vietnam's history and how Archbishop Thuc and his family were caught in the center of this battle with communist spies and insurgents.

I think the eulogy you provided us from Bp. des Lauriers was the most poignant:

With all his imperfections and against all odds .. he remained "miles Christi".

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Autobiography of Archbishop Thuc
« Reply #614 on: July 14, 2026, 12:34:18 PM »
You've gone from this (emphasis mine):


To this:


To this:

There are many ways of writing the letter "r"? Wow, profound insight, Tom! We know what you said, but the problem is what you said doesn't make any sense. Explain to us how the "r" in Letter #1 is written the "same way" (you said this), or "joined" in the "same general manner" (then said this), or written in the "same general way" (then said this) as the "r"s in Letter #2. I've asked you several times and you keep evading. You can use the collage I posted. Point it out for us..or you can just admit you were talking out of your ass, and that the "r" in Letter #1, and the way it is joined with the preceding "e" bears no resemblance to the "r"s in Letter #2
Tom Cabbage never makes any sense, except in his own mind, which is off.  That's why he goes around calling +Thuc insane.  It's called projection.