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Where do you stand on Marriage Prenups and State Marriage Licenses?

I FAVOR a Catholic prenup and REFUSE a state marriage license.
2 (8.3%)
I REFUSE a Catholic Prenup and ACCEPT a state marriage license.
1 (4.2%)
I accept Catholic marriage vows and state laws as written (and pray I'm not divorced).
13 (54.2%)
I don't have a firm opinion on either one.
3 (12.5%)
I hope to get to Heaven by remaining single.
5 (20.8%)

Total Members Voted: 20

Voting closed: July 05, 2018, 07:43:47 PM

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Offline MaterDominici

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2018, 05:34:29 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on June 24, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
All of you women are jumping to conclusions and 'worst case' scenarios, when in fact, most divorces are for petty, frivolous and "emotional" reasons.
This conversation is only concerned about Traditional Catholic divorces. I'm not sure your "most" would apply to that group.
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2018, 05:35:49 PM »
Quote from: jvk on June 24, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
I do not agree with pre-nuptial agreements.  If my husband were to have asked me to sign one before we got married, I would have been insulted! 
Not saying this applies to you, but isn't it reasonable to consider that if a woman rejects a prenup, it's an ominous sign that she will also be disobedient to her husband after marriage? If she doesn't trust the man at the moment he wants a prenup and he wants to get married, why should the man think she will be obedient and follow his lead after they're married?
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2018, 05:47:09 PM »
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This conversation is only concerned about Traditional Catholic divorces. I'm not sure your "most" would apply to that group.
The example you provided (where I assume you were talking about a trad cath) wherein she got a divorce during a separation for monetary reasons, is frivolous, emotional and petty.

You also assumed that just because a couple was separated that the man would automatically abandon them financially.  That's a pretty anti-male attitude, but in our day and age, that's normal.  Most women have this type of thinking, even if it's not voluntary.  Shows the depths of modernism that we've all been infected with (including me).
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Offline Croix de Fer

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2018, 06:04:41 PM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer on June 24, 2018, 08:28:04 AM
Several women have made the argument that when couples get married, they should entrust everything to God, therefore the prenup should be avoided, because a prenup shows a lack of trust in each other, so there must not be real love involved. If that is their argument, then why do they demand a State marriage license, if they entrust their marriage to God, and they feel they and their husbands should try to live up to an ideal spousal trust? Why do they feel they need legal validation from the State?

Can you see the contradiction? The women demand trust of each other (husband & wife) only when the women are allowed to have leverage of taking the husband's hard-earned assets, home & money through a "divorce", and in order to allow this leverage to remain, there should be no outside force (prenup) disrupting it. Conversely and in contradiction, they demand an outside force - the State - to be involved in their marriage in a state contract (license) as a 3rd party.

Wake up from your slumber, "men".

I want a woman, who is opposed to prenups and in favor of State marriage licenses, to address this point. Manipulated "men", you can also comment.

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Offline Incredulous

Re: Do you favor State Marriage Licenses & Prenuptual Agreements ?
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2018, 06:10:37 PM »
Quote from: MaterDominici on June 24, 2018, 05:27:41 PM
I've never heard there was a time limit on separation. I'd be interested to see where this is outlined.
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Of course, it's difficult to discuss this fictional docuŠ¼ent, but I'd presume at whatever point one of the parties deviated from Church teaching, their rights as described in the docuŠ¼ent would be void.

I believe Church law allows a permanent separation if one spouse is unfaithful.
No divorce, just live separately.
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