Author Topic: In defense of listening to the talking heads. (Read 8671 times)

henry · « **Reply #25 on:** July 02, 2010, 11:29:59 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: henry
I wonder why Michael Hoffman is pro-founding fathers and pro-America.

programming runs deep-even teh best of us, Like Chesterton and Belloc, can be off occasionally, must weigh everything.....

those two great early 20thC writers far have more good then evil......they were as us a product of their times....

True. Hoffman is so strong on so many other points, that I can overlook his weakness in this area.

Patman · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2010, 12:46:01 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

His main consolation is that he has the power to trick humans and make them into fools just like he is. He is not a fool in terms of his intellectual capacity, mind you, only in how he USED this great intellectual capacity. Likewise, humans are foolish when they honor their own minds and can't admit how feeble and blind they are compared to God. Only humility and trust in God and the Church, a knowledge of our own insufficency, can stop us from being fooled. That is the irony. If you admit you're weak, you are safe. If you think you are brilliant, you are doomed.

We must remember that humility is "truth", which includes not only what you say about the truth of ourselves and our dependency and weakness, but humility is a love of truth about reality - that is, what the Church teaches, philosophical truth and reason. St. Teresa of Avila went through several spiritual directors and stated she would rather have a learned confessor than one who is only noted for being spiritual.

Ignorance will really make one vulnerable to the wiles of the devil. Humility makes us extremely vigilant to abide by reason, logic, philosophical and theological principles and teachings. You see, humility is like recognizing the truth that you were not born with any armor or weapons, as well as the acknowledgment that you NEED some and therefore study, like Raoul said, the lives of the Saints, catechisms and spiritual manuals and works. True humility has the diligence to discern and eradicate inconsistencies and contradictions in your own position.

Alexandria · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2010, 01:19:59 PM »

Raoul Said:

"He works on you in a way that will make you think you're winning when you're really losing. It's the oldest trick in the book -- flattery. Out of pride, we think we can't be fooled, we think that we are defeating the devil. But then you realize it is not the devil but YOUR OWN PRIDE that is the enemy, and that the devil is only working on that.

The devil cannot fool anyone who doesn't want to be fooled. In a sense he is an agent of God because he tests us. I'm not saying he's not genuinely evil, he is, but at the same time God has turned this evil to a purpose. The devil thought he was going to overpower God and instead he became just another part of His plan.

His main consolation is that he has the power to trick humans and make them into fools just like he is. He is not a fool in terms of his intellectual capacity, mind you, only in how he USED this great intellectual capacity. Likewise, humans are foolish when they honor their own minds and can't admit how feeble and blind they are compared to God. Only humility and trust in God and the Church, a knowledge of our own insufficency, can stop us from being fooled. That is the irony. If you admit you're weak, you are safe. If you think you are brilliant, you are doomed."

This is something each and every one here should ponder well.

"Let he who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall"

Trinity · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2010, 02:02:29 PM »

But I contend that it is up to the individual to make that choice. One person should not arrogantly order another person's life for them.

Patman · « **Reply #29 on:** July 06, 2010, 02:00:51 AM »

Quote from: Trinity

But I contend that it is up to the individual to make that choice. One person should not arrogantly order another person's life for them.

What "choice" is that, specifically?