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Author Topic: Winona STAS -- Geocentrism, Heliocentrism or Indifferentism; GE or FE  (Read 226431 times)

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What were the Winona years at STAS like in terms of any formal instruction or lack thereof concerning geocentrism vs. heliocentrism, or was the topic largely ignored or met with a degree of indifferentism?

Also, same inquiry as above with respect to globe earth vs. flat earth.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Winona STAS -- Geocentrism, Heliocentrism or Indifferentism; GE or FE
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2025, 04:49:01 PM »
I were there in the late 1980s - early 1990s, and the subject never came up (over the course of about 3 years or so).


Re: Winona STAS -- Geocentrism, Heliocentrism or Indifferentism; GE or FE
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2025, 06:12:21 PM »
I were there in the late 1980s - early 1990s, and the subject never came up (over the course of about 3 years or so).

That said, any idea why the subject never came up?  Any idea if there was any sort of unspoken (openly) consensus about these matters?

Re: Winona STAS -- Geocentrism, Heliocentrism or Indifferentism; GE or FE
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2025, 07:35:17 PM »
At today's STAS here you see the 3rd year's curriculum.  As you can see they have a course of Cosmology (combined with Psychology!)
https://stas.org/en/seminary-curriculum-30107.

Recognizing the influence of Fr. Paul Robinson, SSPX who promotes Big Bang and Old (as in billions of years) Earth, I can only wonder in horror about what their Cosmology course entails.


[th]First Philosophy[/th]
[th] [/th]
Scripture I 2h
Cosmology and Psychology3h
Apologetics3h
Logic2h
Church History                                                                                 2h
Latin 4h
Liturgy II1h
Total  17h


Offline Matthew

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Re: Winona STAS -- Geocentrism, Heliocentrism or Indifferentism; GE or FE
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2025, 07:52:39 PM »
What were the Winona years at STAS like in terms of any formal instruction or lack thereof concerning geocentrism vs. heliocentrism, or was the topic largely ignored or met with a degree of indifferentism?

Also, same inquiry as above with respect to globe earth vs. flat earth.

Like most honest men, I will confess to being much less aware/awake/wise/educated when I was 23 compared with my current "seasoned" age. I don't know if I even knew the truth about the Moon Landings back in 2000. I certainly didn't know about the true shape of the earth back then.

I didn't learn about Geocentrism until the year "The Principle" came out (2014), and another film made the same year, "Galileo was Wrong". I was totally convinced of Geocentrism at that point.

My conversion journey was roughly: 1. Creation, the Catholic Faith, Catholic dogmas  2. cօռspιʀαcιҽs are a thing, including the Jews and all their creations (Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Illuminati, etc.).  3. The Moon landings were bogus  4. The earth is the center of the universe  5. the earth is flat

But you have to remember -- Flat Earth became a huge topic around 2016 (?) or thereabouts. I remember a ton of discussion on the topic on CathInfo at that time.
According to Eric Dubay, he was largely responsible for the "explosion" or renaissance of FE discussion around then. He had done a ton of research, and then suddenly "dumped" a ton of material all at once, and apparently made quite a splash, because a lot of momentum was started which continues to this day.
Apparently, way back in the day (2016) you could even find FE videos on Youtube -- I'm talking about using the search engine, recommended videos, and such. There weren't a ton of "debunking" channels artificially boosted yet. FE videos weren't artificially kept down or shadowbanned yet! Imagine that. Talk about "the good old days". Too bad I wasn't involved in that subject back then.

Say what you will about Eric Dubay (I sure will!) -- he is full of flaws and errors about religion for example -- but he has done some good work.