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Offline Meg

Re: Patent Falsehoods by happenby
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 01:00:35 PM »
If I wanted to take the time, I could give  examples of creepy flat earthers.   Eric Dubay springs to mind. It is not, however, significant either way.

As you have already been told, Copernicus did not introduce or promote the concept of spherical earth.  Catholics had already held a consensus that the earth is a sphere for hundreds of years before his time.  He introduced the idea of the earth orbiting a stationary sun.  You keep conflating these ideas because you know how weak your argument is.

As usual, you choose to ignore the main point of what I posted. It's not about who's creepy. It's about how society has been affected. Surely you saw that that's my main point.

Re: Patent Falsehoods by happenby
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2018, 01:04:59 PM »
You Flat Earthers are cowards. See, it’s easy for you to deny the expertise and question the science when doing so has no practical implications for your lives. But here you are using a computer - do you question the work of “ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ” Alan Turing? Do you question the theories of electronics that underlying it? Do you question Maxwell’s equations?  Do you doubt the views of the technician who comes in to repair it? Do you tell him he’s a representatives of scientism and a liar? Do you doubt the physics of thermodynamics when it comes to your car’s internal combustion engine? Do you claim that Newton’s gravitational theories are bunk when it yields the equations of motion that have been used by artillerists for centuries to accurately determine the paths of projectiles? Maybe all those cruise missiles fired at Syria were fake. Maybe planes are fake too - how could they be real when they are engineered according to the equations of Newtonian Mechanics? Please, don’t ever again drive over a modern bridge built on the principles of statics. And don’t turn on an appliance that is powered by electricity- and for goodness’ sake, especially not if that electricity is coming from nuclear power: that’s a fairy tale. Physicists are a bunch of morons! One should never listen to them! 

What we understand is that all of you have no education in any mathematical science, a double-digit I.Q., and the diabolical vanity and pride of the wilfully ignorant idiot who rages against anything beyond the grasp of his puny intellect and hates anyone who doesn’t share his failings in this regard.



Re: Patent Falsehoods by happenby
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2018, 01:17:49 PM »

Flat earth is sinister? I don't think so. In what way has the belief in a flat earth affected humanity, society, or religion? There have been no negative social or political or religious effects that I know of.

However, I must say that the belief in a spherical earth has had a sinister effect on society, humanity at large, and religion, IMO. Consider what Happenby stated on your thread recently:

"The sphere is always found emanating from the dark corners of science where you find these types: Cabalists (Albert Pike), sorcerers (Johannes Kepler), diviners (N. Copernicus), atheists (Einstein), Freemasons (NASA), ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs (Newton), political mass murderers (Karl Marx).

All of these men were sphere earth promoters in a big way. In fact, Karl Marx, an avid spherical earther, actually thanked Copernicus for giving him a scientific premise for communism/marxism."

https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/st-augustine-believed-the-earth-is-a-sphere/

I think it's important to understand what sort of people have promoted a sphere earth, and how it has effected humanity.
The fact is that you are as much able to understand and analyse social phenomena and the supposed  “impact” of belief in a “spherical Earth” upon human societies as you are able to understand and analyse a classical mechanics textbook or a physical experiment, which is to say, NOT AT ALL.  You’re as inept at playing the sociologist or historian as you are at playing the physicist:
Your “point” is nothing; you’ve said nothing, elaborated nothing, substantiated nothing, and argued for nothing. You’ve merely jotted down a few names and said something about some alleged and unexplained “effects” upon “society”. That’s not a point. It’s not even a claim. There’s nothing to respond to.

Re: Patent Falsehoods by happenby
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2018, 01:20:26 PM »
As usual, you choose to ignore the main point of what I posted. It's not about who's creepy. It's about how society has been affected. Surely you saw that that's my main point.
Most of things you think happened did not happen or, at least, not when you think they did.  But of the things that actually did happen, you have not shown a causal relationship to changes in society.

For example, belief in spherical earth was widespread among the Catholics of the Middle Ages. Also, some bad things happened then, like the bubonic plague.  It does not necessarily follow that believing the earth is a sphere causes the plague.  Your ideas on "how society has been affected" are based on this sort of logical fallacy.  There is nothing to say other than to point out your inability to construct logical arguments.  Since that is obvious, I did not bother.  

I can think of no affect on society due to spherical earth.  However, if there were one, it would have shown up in the middle ages.  You are not even considering the right time period.

Re: Patent Falsehoods by happenby
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2018, 05:45:34 PM »
Meg, please ignore Jaynek and her ba'alcrap.

Don't feed the troll.