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People here are still trying to push this whole angels mated with humans Gnostic garbage?  Nowhere does The Church teach this and it goes against any Catholic sense and this type of belief, and others like it, were condemned at Fifth Ecuмenical Council Constantinople II and part of the 15 condemned errors of Origen.  (A search should get you to see and read them)

The gnostics were around in the Early Church period and were spreading false Gospels and this is why The Church had to step in and go through a plethora of books to see which ones were ok to include and which were not.  People shouldn't try to reconcile forbidden and rejected books, this goes into the realm of vain curiosity, and I fell victim to this Gnostic trash for a while and I would hope that others will listen and not go down this rabbit hole out of "vain curiosity" or for "more light/"gnosis""  If The Church did not include it then that should be good enough for us not to get into this trash.   The Duoay-Rheims commnetary and Catholic sense tells us what the daughters of men are as Tradman alluded to earlier, we don't need these fantastical Gnostic ideas.  

A lot of the New Agers, and certain New Age leaning "Protestants" have "revived" a lot of the Gnostic "gospels" for a reason...to sow confusion and bring Gnosticism back and get people thinking into those ideas.  

Some of The Church Fathers had this opinion that it was demonically possessed humans that they're referring to and not actual demons themselves and I think a lot of their opinions on the matter are distorted or taken out of context, and even if they DID mean it that way, it might have been a loose opinion floating about due to the Gnostic trash out there and The Church condemned many of those types of ideas later anyway.  

Starting at around -45:00 In Robert Sungenis' most recent live video, he talks about a huge light that preceded the sun during the week of creation. It is about a billion times, um, no,...wait, he says, probably only ten thousand times, no wait, maybe a million times bigger than the sun. Yea, that's it. Then it dissipates. And it goes away.  It's still there, but we don't need it.  Earth is enveloped by water, which was ice at the time because the temp was zero.  Now it's water thanks to the big sun before the sun.  He says the universe is precessing; both vertically and horizontally, at about -34:50 and the universe is spiraling around the earth and it draws an oval over the earth except at the pole. He says the one reason geocentrism is superior to heliocentrism is because of stellar aberration and the speed of light only works within the geocentric system.  At about -28:30 Sungenis says he studied (all) the hundreds of books on the Fathers of the Church to tie their understanding together to explain creation. 



Get ready people.  Sungenis' new movie is coming in a couple of months! He says you'll get to watch a graphic creation of the universe as though you were there!






I wondered what might happen if Sungenis showed up to the forum to chat about geocentrism, but all hope of any reasonable discussion went out the window after watching this video. In fact, I went straight away and looked up the term "intellectual dishonesty" and found this:

Intellectual Dishonesty

What is meant when one uses this term?

When one avoids an honest, deliberate and comprehensive approach to a matter because it may introduce an adverse effect on personally and professionally held views and beliefs.



 

Intellectual Dishonesty

What is meant when one uses this term?

When one avoids an honest, deliberate and comprehensive approach to a matter because it may introduce an adverse effect on personally and professionally held views and beliefs.

Like M79 respecting Cooties-19, modern so-called virology, Germ Theory vs. Terrain Theory, FE vs. GE, Geocentrism vs. Heliocentrism, or any number of topics unrelated to exposing the SS.

I have met MANY people throughout Traddieland during the past 25 years.  There is an almost-universal desire to know the truth about everything, particularly because once one realizes that the modern anti-Church is a fraud, it is natural, especially for the intellectually active and curious, to question everything.  It turns out that just about everything HAS been rendered fake, in one way or another: fake food, fake money, fake sex/marriage, fake medicine, fake cosmology, fake wars/enemies, and on and on and on.  How can anyone hang out at CI for any length of time without questioning just about everything, knowing that the very Pillar and Foundation of Truth has, in some still-mysterious manner, been, at least to all appearances, rendered fake?  FWIW, the SS has had a hand in a great deal of the aforementioned falsification.