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50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #105 on: January 11, 2017, 05:04:25 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer
Quote from: Matto
I have a question for the flat earthers. I have been thinking about this and it still does not make sense to me. Flat earthers say that when ships or islands or mountains or anything else appears to sink below the horizon it is only an illusion and if you look with a telescope the object can be seen. But does it work the same way with the sun? When the sun seems to sink below the horizon is it also an illusion and if you look for the sun with a telescope, can you see the sun like they say you can see the boats and islands and mountains when they sink below the horizon?


Don't expect a straight answer from them. They never give one, rather they'll post a link to a video and tell you to watch it or they'll post a borderline facetious illustration of a false premise in which they base their arguments. I've wondered if there is some demonic element with this movement. The people say the same things and they're zealous for it.

It's a pattern with these people. I've, also, noticed a lot of them are women, which isn't really a surprise because they're more prone to emotional attachments to falsehoods. This might be indicative of the their personal or home life being unfulfilling in some way, therefore, they compensate by emotionally investing into a sensational theory. This sensational theory is their "husband" or "family". They defend the sensational like they'd (suppose to) defend their child's or husband's character.  


I just want to draw attention to this post. You are really starting to cross a line here, and it is clear you are just trolling. Your questions have been answered, and you are resorting to personal insults, so please get lost.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #106 on: January 11, 2017, 08:50:10 AM »
Aside from some foul language, this guy is on point. No anti-religion garbage either.

On Polaris and it's southern hemisphere counterpart Sigma Octantis, and how they're not the same star:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/N4DF9n3ItB0[/youtube]

- Sigma O and Polaris at vastly different brightness levels
- Stars revolve in different directions depending on hemisphere

On the horizon issue:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/RIZbh3g16-8[/youtube]

- Basic telescopes with 100 magnification would readily enable people to see across the Atlantic Ocean on a Flat Earth.
- A "cloud of particles" cannot block radar.
- Use of mathematics to scale down and show why the horizon appears flat (even from an airplane) on a simple soccer ball.
- The Bedford Level experiment adjusted to account for atmospheric refraction.


50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #107 on: January 11, 2017, 09:55:28 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer


Look at you, FlatTard, demanding answers to questions after you never answered my questions, instead you posted links to frauds (pilots / submarine operators) filling a niche of the sensational to sell books and speeches.

Let us look up one of the synonyms to the word "circle". One synonym is "GLOBE", but nowhere is the word "flat" to be found.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/circle

You and the other FlatTards ignore the following that I stated because it exposes the fallacy of your positions:

Regarding Our Lady's warning about earthquakes to come, she say's "the EARTH's GLOBE will have convulsions and earthquakes." It makes absolutely no sense for FlatTards to refer to the sky (which is a "globe" according to them) as having earthquakes when, according to their "flat earth" theory, these "half globes" represent the sky above the earth and the domain, which consists of water or dust, below the earth's land mass and navigable waters, respectively.

In other words, these FlatTards are saying there will be earthquakes in the sky according to Our Lady. This is preposterous.

Our Lady is referring to the earth that we can see and upon that we physically live. It will have convulsions and earthquakes. She calls this land mass "the earth's globe".





Croix de Fer, while enjoying his use of the pejorative "tard," is demonstrating his own mental deficiencies.

He clearly does not understand the difference between a dictionary and a thesaurus and is having a really hard time with the definition of the word circle and compass. I'm sorry God's Word is so disappointing to you, Croix.

And what is this earthquake in the sky nonsense you keep babbling on about? No FE'er has said such a thing. You really need help.

It is always a strange thing to me when I see people who react like they are SOOOOO personally offended at the idea the earth is a flat disc as described in the Bible. You really have to be a special snowflake to be angry about God's design not conforming to what the atheist scientists taught you.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #108 on: January 11, 2017, 10:19:54 AM »
Quote from: happenby
So, which direction did Jesus rise?  The globe is a contradiction and denies all truth.  


This is another post that went unanswered. So, let me do that.

Sorry the illustration with this post did not reappear here, I am unable to post pioctures. It depicts man on a global earth as though it would mean the only place he could stand upright is on top of the north pole. Everywhere else he would be standing sideways at different angles until he is standing upside down at the south pole.

Of all the posts arguing against a global earth this one needs to be exposed for what it is, bringing the debate down to the level of absurdity, and submitting a dogma of the faith to this asbsurdity. Better we separate the two for simplicity.

Now unless flaterarthers argue the moon, sun and planets are also flat, with their discs pointing towards the earth at all times, then they must take the moon and Mars as globes. This being so, if man were to get to the moon, and land probes on Mars, which I accept as true happenings, then the same nonsense would apply. Only at the top, wherever that might be on the moon and Mars, would a man or machine be able to stand upright.

“For great is the power of God alone, and he is honoured by the humble. Seek not the things that are too high for thee, and search not into things above thy ability: but the things that God hath commanded thee, think on them always, and in many of his works be not curious. For it is not necessary for thee to see with thy eyes those things that are hid. In unnecessary matters be not over curious, and in many of his works thou shalt not be inquisitive. For many things are shewn to thee above the understanding of men. And the suspicion of them hath deceived man, and hath detained their minds in vanity.” (Ecclus 3:21-26).

To understand how we have the sky above and earth below everywhere on global earth is beyond human reasoning. We call this mystery 'gravity' and actually believe we understand how it works, but in fact it is an ongoing act of God.

To say science understands the mystery of ‘gravity’ is ignorant or deceit for no one other than God ‘understands’ what we call ‘gravity.’ We know the need for and effects of ‘gravity’ on earth, and indeed on the surface of every other cosmic body, but can mere human reason really comprehend the mystery of gravity? Given, for example, that if we view the earth from space, as man can do now, we find it surrounded by nothing; its surface covered with ‘unattached’ things, half ‘upside-down’ relative to the other half. This being so, we can ask, how is it that on this same globe everybody on its surface has the sky above and the earth below. Is such a phenomenon not beyond human understanding? Let us put it this way. Here we are in the space shuttle, heading for global earth. Now, no matter where we head for, even if it is a place right on the bottom of the globe as we head towards it, somehow, by the time we land, we end up the same way, the sky is always overhead, and the earth is always below. When does the ‘head-under-heels twist’ happen, we ask? If a fly landed on the same place on a light bulb, it would find itself ‘upside down,’ yet the same does not occur when the bulbs are cosmic bodies. How does this happen? ‘It is all because of gravity’ we are told, and thank God for it we say, because without it we would all be in one terrible incoherent state of chaos.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #109 on: January 11, 2017, 10:35:55 AM »
Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: Croix de Fer


Look at you, FlatTard, demanding answers to questions after you never answered my questions, instead you posted links to frauds (pilots / submarine operators) filling a niche of the sensational to sell books and speeches.

Let us look up one of the synonyms to the word "circle". One synonym is "GLOBE", but nowhere is the word "flat" to be found.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/circle

You and the other FlatTards ignore the following that I stated because it exposes the fallacy of your positions:

Regarding Our Lady's warning about earthquakes to come, she say's "the EARTH's GLOBE will have convulsions and earthquakes." It makes absolutely no sense for FlatTards to refer to the sky (which is a "globe" according to them) as having earthquakes when, according to their "flat earth" theory, these "half globes" represent the sky above the earth and the domain, which consists of water or dust, below the earth's land mass and navigable waters, respectively.

In other words, these FlatTards are saying there will be earthquakes in the sky according to Our Lady. This is preposterous.

Our Lady is referring to the earth that we can see and upon that we physically live. It will have convulsions and earthquakes. She calls this land mass "the earth's globe".






He clearly does not understand the difference between a dictionary and a thesaurus and is having a really hard time with the definition of the word circle and compass.


So why does the thesaurus have "globe" as a synonym of "circle", but the word "flat" isn't mentioned? Is it because when a person looks at a circle, it appears round, just like the earth is round? Maybe this is what the Bible writers were conveying?  :scratchchin:

The word "flat" is a very simple word and concept to describe an object. Surely, the word existed in the Hebrew and Koine Greek language, so why didn't the Bible writers use it to describe the shape of the earth?  



Quote from: mw2016
I'm sorry God's Word is so disappointing to you, Croix.


So you're really saying you're happy that Satan's lies made you addicted to the sensational?  :shocked:



Quote from: mw2016
And what is this earthquake in the sky nonsense you keep babbling on about? No FE'er has said such a thing. You really need help.


According to FlatTardology, the message by Our Lady of La Salette states that the sky will have earthquakes, which is premised on your belief that the only (half) globe is the sky above the "flat" earth. Did you go to the Bozo School of Science or Theology?  :clown: