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50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #110 on: January 11, 2017, 10:58:04 AM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer
Quote from: mw2016
Quote from: Croix de Fer


Look at you, FlatTard, demanding answers to questions after you never answered my questions, instead you posted links to frauds (pilots / submarine operators) filling a niche of the sensational to sell books and speeches.

Let us look up one of the synonyms to the word "circle". One synonym is "GLOBE", but nowhere is the word "flat" to be found.

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/circle

You and the other FlatTards ignore the following that I stated because it exposes the fallacy of your positions:

Regarding Our Lady's warning about earthquakes to come, she say's "the EARTH's GLOBE will have convulsions and earthquakes." It makes absolutely no sense for FlatTards to refer to the sky (which is a "globe" according to them) as having earthquakes when, according to their "flat earth" theory, these "half globes" represent the sky above the earth and the domain, which consists of water or dust, below the earth's land mass and navigable waters, respectively.

In other words, these FlatTards are saying there will be earthquakes in the sky according to Our Lady. This is preposterous.

Our Lady is referring to the earth that we can see and upon that we physically live. It will have convulsions and earthquakes. She calls this land mass "the earth's globe".






He clearly does not understand the difference between a dictionary and a thesaurus and is having a really hard time with the definition of the word circle and compass.


So why does the thesaurus have "globe" as a synonym of "circle", but the word "flat" isn't mentioned? Is it because when a person looks at a circle, it appears round, just like the earth is round? Maybe this is what the Bible writers were conveying?  :scratchchin:

The word "flat" is a very simple word and concept to describe an object. Surely, the word existed in the Hebrew and Koine Greek language, so why didn't the Bible writers use it to describe the shape of the earth?  



Quote from: mw2016
I'm sorry God's Word is so disappointing to you, Croix.


So you're really saying you're happy that Satan's lies made you addicted to the sensational?  :shocked:



Quote from: mw2016
And what is this earthquake in the sky nonsense you keep babbling on about? No FE'er has said such a thing. You really need help.


According to FlatTardology, the message by Our Lady of La Salette states that the sky will have earthquakes, which is premised on your belief that the only (half) globe is the sky above the "flat" earth. Did you go to the Bozo School of Science or Theology?  :clown:


A circle is not a globe.

Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Croix de Fer, repeat after me.

This is a CIRCLE.


This is a GLOBE.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #111 on: January 11, 2017, 11:41:45 AM »
Quote from: happenby
So, which direction did Jesus rise?  The globe is a contradiction and denies all truth.  


So here we bring in the theology of Christ's ascention and heaven to support a flat earth. It restricts God to a flat-earth theology and heaven to a place that has to be above the earth.

A global earth has heaven outside the physical universe, This gives heaven an infinite demention far more fitting to an Omnipotent Maker.

As for theology and tradition, where is there a flat earth in Catholic tradition developed throughout the ages? The sacrted doctrine of geocentrism has always been global. Andrew White tells us:

'Having thus come from antiquity into the Christian world, St Clement of Alexandria demonstrated that the altar in the Jєωιѕн Tabernacle was “a symbol of the earth placed in the middle of the universe:” nothing more was needed; the geocentric theory was fully adopted by the Church and universally held to agree with the letter and spirit of Scripture.'

'Three great men mainly reared this structure. First was the unknown who gave to the world the treatises ascribed to Dionysius the Areopagite. It was unhesitatingly believed that these were the work of St Paul’s Athenian convert, and therefore virtually of St Paul himself.'

‘The next of these three great theologians was Peter Lombard, Professor at the University of Paris. About the middle of the twelfth century he gave forth his collection of Sentences, or statements by the Fathers, and this remained until the end of the Middle Ages the universal manual of theology.'

‘The great triad of thinkers culminated in St Thomas Aquinas – the sainted theologian, the glory of the mediaeval Church, the ‘Angelic Doctor,’ the most marvellous intellect; he to whom it was believed that an image of the crucified had spoken words praising his writings. '

 ‘Thus was the vast system developed by these three leaders of mediaeval thought; and now came the man who wrought it yet more deeply into European belief, the poet divinely inspired who made the system part of the world’s life. Pictured by Dante [in The Divine Comedy], the empyrean and the concentric heavens, paradise, purgatory, and hell, were seen by all;

‘Let us look into this vast creation – the highest achievement of theology – somewhat more closely. Its first feature shows a development out of earlier theological ideas. The earth is no longer a flat plain enclosed by four walls and solidly vaulted above, as theologians of previous centuries had believed it [sic], under the inspiration of Cosmas [Indicopleustes]; it is no longer a mere flat disk, with sun, moon, and stars hung up to give it light, as the earlier cathedral sculptors had figured it; it has become a globe at the centre of the universe.'

Then of course was the global geocentrism of St Cardinal Robert Bellarmine (1542-1621) in his 1614 book De Ascensione Mentis in Deum - The Mind’s Ascent to God by the Ladder of Created Things'

Finally an interesting revelation of a global earth: It comes from the private revelations from heaven to Sister Mary of Jesus, better known as Mary of Agreda (1602-1665). The following insights, dictated to her, she said, by the Virgin Mary herself in 1637. Her three volume work is entitled; ‘The Mystical City of God’ or ‘The Divine History and Life of the Virgin Mother of God.’ These revelations to Sister Mary, whose body lies incorrupt in the Agreda Franciscan Monastery in Spain, have received approbations from many popes throughout history as a mode of greater understanding of the Catholic faith completely in line with traditional Church teaching.  

QUOTE: '…. God created the earth co-jointly with the heavens in order to call into existence hell in its centre; for, at the instant of its creation, there were left in the interior of that globe, spacious and wide cavities, suitable for hell, purgatory and limbo. And in hell was created at the same time material fire and other requisites, which now serve for the punishment of the damned.'


50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #112 on: January 11, 2017, 01:30:29 PM »
Quote from: cassini

To understand how we have the sky above and earth below everywhere on global earth is beyond human reasoning. We call this mystery 'gravity' and actually believe we understand how it works, but in fact it is an ongoing act of God.



Crikey, this entire post is the biggest load of malarkey I have seen posted in recent memory here at Cathinfo!

Cassini - you do remember that even the religion of scientism posits gravity as a THEORY, yes?

And please tell me that you do remember that the high priests of the religion of scientism also readily admit that they are not at all sure how gravity works, or are much less able to prove its very existence?

Therefore, you have given credence to a "mysterious force" that does not exist, nor is even necessary, above the Word of God Himself. That is utterly indefensible.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #113 on: January 11, 2017, 01:32:48 PM »
Quote from: Truth is Eternal


A circle is not a globe.

Quote from: Truth is Eternal
Croix de Fer, repeat after me.

This is a CIRCLE.


This is a GLOBE.


AMEN.

He still is not capable of understanding the difference between a ball and a circle.

50 Plus Reasons The Earth Is Not Flat
« Reply #114 on: January 11, 2017, 01:38:28 PM »
Quote from: Croix de Fer

According to FlatTardology, the message by Our Lady of La Salette states that the sky will have earthquakes, which is premised on your belief that the only (half) globe is the sky above the "flat" earth. Did you go to the Bozo School of Science or Theology?  :clown:


Your interpretation of the message of La Sallette is very bizarre.

Do you enjoy going to basecircle games, Croix? Can you tell me how the catcher manages to catch the circle in his mitt?

How about basketcircle games? Can you tell me how they dribble the circle in a basketcircle game?

I'm sure if I went about town talking like this, nobody would think it strange at all, since ball and circle mean EXACTLY the same thing, right?

"I will compass thine altar, O Lord..."

Do you think when the priest says this in the Mass, as he goes about the altar with the incense, that what he is really supposed to do is go over and under the altar too, or merely AROUND it?