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Offline Nadir

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2019, 06:17:00 AM »
Quote from: Struthio on July 17, 2019, 02:36:44 AM
Plínio is presented as a divine being on the TIA website. You and other TIA followers should make Átila and Marian stop doing so.

But you are corrupt and choose to attack me and not Átila/TIA. You choose to side with blasphemy and to fight against those who denounce it.
Would you kindly give me a link to illustrate the first statement?
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Offline Struthio

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2019, 06:25:57 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on July 17, 2019, 06:17:00 AM
Would you kindly give me a link to illustrate the first statement?

See one of my recent posts in this thread. Keyword: Moses. Page: 6.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2019, 09:17:42 AM »
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Plínio is presented as a divine being on the TIA website. You and other TIA followers should make Átila and Marian stop doing so.

But you are corrupt and choose to attack me and not Átila/TIA. You choose to side with blasphemy and to fight against those who denounce it. 

You're so overly-dramatic, it's ridiculous.  I'm not a TIA "follower"...I simply read stuff from their website.  And most of what I read is solid.
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Frankly, I've never heard Plino's name until all these threads.  I've heard of Atila but only because he's alive.  If Plino and Atilia are blasphemers and nut jobs, ok.  Does that affect all the other people who write articles on their site?  I've not seen the bad influence appear in their articles.  I've seen +Fellay have more bad influence on the new-sspx than any kind of false apparitions or hero-worship from TIA.
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I've said from the beginning that i'm only making a distinction that TIA is not all bad, even if the founders are crazy.  You refuse to make this distinction and then call me "corrupt" because you have some emotional pain assocated with TFP/TIA, (just like Cera) and you are triggered. 
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Offline Meg

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2019, 10:52:57 AM »
Quote from: Cera on July 16, 2019, 02:49:54 PM
Hi Meg,
I've previously explained why I am concerned about the Plinio- worshiping cults.


1. Because I too got taken in by TIA's appearance of Catholicity.


2. And because when I began to research deeper into the writings of Atila and Marian, I realized that although they pretended to have left TFP, they had never left the Plinio- worshiping, anti-clerical parts of it.


3.  And because when I looked even deeper, I learned just how evil all of the Plinio-worshiping groups are. TFP was condemned by its local Bishop, by the Bishops of Brazil and by the civil authorities of two South American nations for child- trafficking (not sɛҳuąƖ trafficking, but removing boys from access to their parents.)


4.  And because as I continued to research, I learned that Marion's brother runs the TFP in the  Pennsylvania and that the truly loony Plinio- worshiping group Heralds of the Gospel is now headquartered in Houston. They say that Plinio is in heaven at the right side of the Holy Virgin and that St. Michael the Archangel is his own personal guardian angel.


5. And as I continued to research, I learned that America Needs Fatima, a project of the TFP, says that the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary has already been done. ANF is the Novus Ordo branch of TFP. A former member of TFP says "We always said 'When TFP needs money, America Needs Fatima'."


And much more . . .

Thanks for the information. I have not seen it before. You were directly involved with the TFP organization, then?
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Offline Meg

Re: Warning against TIA, de Oliveira from a priest who knows the group
« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2019, 10:57:15 AM »
Quote from: Struthio on July 16, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f159_Defense_Port.htm
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/Internet_Files/F159_Defesa-Port.pdf


https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f142_Defense.htm
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/Internet_Files/F142_Defense_Eng.pdf


Átila thinks that God is "more present" in Plínio Corrêa de Oliveira than in the sacred burning bush.

That's the way, Átila presents himself and his Plínio.


From post above:

Atila wrote:

"The great Moses with his burning bush on the top of Sinai does not make me jealous. For if he were with God for 40 days, I have been with Plinio for 33 years. And in this relationship I see, perhaps, more of the divine presence than he before the sacred bush. And I guard hope that I may win the dispute with this prophet when I shall pass from this exile into the fatherland."


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