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Archbishop Viganò sees evidence ‘that the end times are now approaching before our eyes’
'We now find ourselves in this doctrinal, moral, liturgical, and disciplinary cone of shadow.' But, we are not yet at the end stage of this disastrous development. 'It is not yet the total eclipse that we will see at the end of time, under the reign of the Antichrist,' the prelate adds.'But it is a partial eclipse, which lets us see the luminous crown of the sun encircling the black disk of the moon.'
Fri Oct 23, 2020 - 4:51 pm EST

Archbishop Carlo Maria ViganoPhoto by Edward Pentin, National Catholic Register

October 23, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – In a speech delivered today via video at the Catholic Identity Conference (CIC) in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò analyzes in depth the causes of the current Church crisis that go back 60 years. This was the first video appearance by the archbishop since he went into hiding in 2018.
Viganò sees that the resister to the Anti-Christ, which is the Catholic Church, has been so much weakened that by now she has practically ceased to resist; for him, there is evidence, therefore, “that the end times are now approaching before our eyes.” But he does not leave us in despair here, encouraging the faithful to remain loyal to the Catholic Faith.
“Scapegoating Francis: How the Revolution of Vatican II serves the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr,” is the title of the Italian prelate's talk (see full text below), and he presents us here with a dire description of the state of the Church which has been “occupied” by those who wish to subdue her to the One World Order as planned and organized by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.

The archbishop calls the part of the hierarchy that collaborates with the forces of the One World Order the deep church; they are for him a minority, but extremely influential. About the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, Viganò states:

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We know that the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr project consists in the establishment of tyranny by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ: a project that dates back to the French Revolution, the Age of Enlightenment, the end of the Catholic Monarchies, and the declaration of war on the Church. We can say that the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is the antithesis of Christian society, it would be the realization of the diabolical Civitas Diaboli – City of the Devil – opposed to the Civitas Dei – City of God – in the eternal struggle between Light and Darkness, Good and Evil, God and Satan.

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According to Archbishop Viganò, the Catholic Church has always been the resister – the kathèkon – to the plans of the Anti-Christ. “And Sacred Scripture warns us,” he says, “that at the manifestation of the Antichrist, this obstacle – the kathèkon – will have ceased to exist.” When the Church – especially her pope – ceases to resist the Evil One, something will happen. “It seems quite evident to me,” add the archbishop, “that the end times are now approaching before our eyes, since the mystery of iniquity has spread throughout the world with the disappearance of the courageous opposition of the kathèkon.”[/font][/size]

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It is also clear that Viganò regards Pope Francis as the leader of this deep church that collaborates with the One World Order, instead of remaining loyal to Jesus Christ and His Teaching. (Here, Pope Francis's October 21 public endorsement of civil unions of same-sex marriages can be seen as a crucial proof of this claim.) For example, the Italian prelate speaks of Fratelli Tutti which aims to “justify dialogue, ecuмenism, and the universal brotherhood of the Bergoglian anti-church.”
For our archbishop, this new church has created extraordinary conditions, not “normal” ones as we knew them from before. “In extraordinary times,” he explains, “events go beyond the ordinary known to our fathers. In extraordinary times, we can hear a Pope deceive the faithful; see Princes of the Church accused of crimes that in other times would have aroused horror and been met with severe punishment; witness in our churches liturgical rites that seem to have been invented by Cranmer’s perverse mind; see Prelates process the unclean idol of the pachamama into St. Peter’s Basilica; and hear the Vicar of Christ apologize to the worshippers of that simulacrum if a Catholic dares to throw it into the Tiber.” Here, even the usual canonical categories seem to fail.
But the “Bergoglian anti-church” has a beginning before the time of Pope Francis, according to Viganò; it goes back 60 years. During that time, “we have witnessed the eclipse of the true Church by an anti-church that has progressively appropriated her name, occupied the Roman Curia and her Dicasteries, Dioceses and Parishes, Seminaries and Universities, Convents and Monasteries.” According to the archbishop, this anti-church has “usurped her authority, and its ministers wear her sacred garments; it uses her prestige and power to appropriate her treasures, assets, and finances.”
Archbishop Viganò can speak on this matter, since, after his ordination in 1968 – shortly after the Second Vatican Council – he has witnessed much moral, doctrinal, liturgical, and financial corruption within the heart of the Vatican, as a high-ranking servant in the Vatican's Diplomatic Service.
Thus he can now say: “We now find ourselves in this doctrinal, moral, liturgical, and disciplinary cone of shadow.” But, we are not yet at the end stage of this disastrous development. “It is not yet the total eclipse that we will see at the end of time, under the reign of the Antichrist,” the prelate adds. “But it is a partial eclipse, which lets us see the luminous crown of the sun encircling the black disk of the moon.”
This is certainly a time to wake up and make a firm commitment to remain loyal to Our Lord and His Teachings and His Love.
This eclipse has come down to us with the help of the spreading of Modernism in the Church especially since the Second Vatican Council, according to Archbishop Viganò, and he once more praises those who resisted that modernist influence. “The case of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and a few other Prelates confirms,” he writes, “the far-sightedness of these shepherds.”
Viganò goes on to remind us of the powerful and protective role that Our Lady is playing in the midst of this crisis and assures us that the “synthesis of all heresies” represented by Modernism and its updated conciliar version, “can never definitively obscure the splendor of the Bride of Christ, but only for the brief period of the eclipse that Providence, in its infinite wisdom, has allowed, to draw from it a greater good.”
The Italian prelate also sees that the Church's hierarchy has lost the supernatural viewpoint, with the innovators in the Church now even believing that one can even change the Church's teachings. He speaks here of “the abandonment on the part of the ecclesiastical Hierarchy, even at the top, of the supernatural dimension of the Church and its eschatological role,” thereby “creating an entity of human origin similar to a philanthropic organization.” The Catholic Church is looking more and more like an NGO, as other have observed. And the new papal encyclical Fratelli tutti is the best example for it. States Viganò: “Fratelli tutti sees the fulfillment of an earthly utopia and social redemption in human brotherhood, pax œcuмenica between religions and welcoming migrants.”
Moreover, the archbishop detects a “sense of inferiority” in the Catholic Church which leads her to believe that she needs to be in accord with the world. But this is an “ideological approach” based on the “false assumption that, between the Church and the contemporary world, there can be an alliance, a consonance of intent, a friendship.” No, the prelate reminds us, “there can be no respite in the struggle between God and Satan, between Light and Darkness.”
Unfortunately, this sense of inferiority, according to Viganò has led many faithful to follow and obey the church leaders into decisions that go against the depositum fidei, the deposit of the Faith. One of the worst blows, he says, was the changing of the Roman Rite of the Liturgy following the Second Vatican Council. He writes:[/font][/size]

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The coup de grâce of this attitude was codified in the Reformed Liturgy, which manifests its embarrassment of Catholic dogma by silencing it – and thus denying it indirectly. The ritual change engendered a doctrinal change, which led the faithful to believe that the Mass is a simple fraternal banquet and that the Most Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol of Christ’s presence among us.

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The change of the Rite of the Mass gravely affected the way Catholics pray and the way they look upon the Real Presence. The responsibility, Archbishop Viganò writes, lies most of all in the Church's authority who fought against the traditionalists who resisted the changes and at the same time was lenient toward Modernists.
Here, he also takes aim at those Catholics who belong “conservative” camp and who end up “'carrying water' for the Revolutionaries because, while rejecting their excesses, it shares the same principles.” Their error, he continues, “lies in giving a negative connotation to traditionalism and in placing it on the opposite side of progressivism.” But this is a false dichotomy. “Their aurea mediocritas [via media] consists in arbitrarily placing themselves not between two vices, but between virtue and vice. They are the ones who criticize the excesses of the pachamama or of the most extreme of Bergoglio’s statements, but who do not tolerate the Council’s being questioned, let alone the intrinsic link between the conciliar cancer and the current metastasis.”
But today, there is to be made a decision. States the archbishop: “The Catholic Church lives under the gaze of God; she exists for His glory and for the salvation of souls. The anti-church lives under the gaze of the world, pandering to the blasphemous apotheosis of man and the damnation of souls.”
In light of these difficulties each Catholic today is facing, Archbishop Viganò is calling us to return to the traditional Holy Liturgy and to the traditional practice of the Faith. “The only way to win this battle,” he states, “is to go back to doing what the Church has always done, and to stop doing what the anti-church asks of us today – that which the true Church has always condemned.”
Thus, he continues, “Let us put Our Lord Jesus Christ, King and High Priest, back at the center of the life of the Church; and before that, at the center of the life of our communities, of our families, of ourselves. Let us restore the crown to Our Lady Mary Most Holy, Queen and Mother of the Church.”
Below is the full talk by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò:[/font][/size]

Catholic Identity Conference
October 24th, 2020

SCAPEGOATING FRANCIS

How the Revolution of Vatican II serves the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Apostolic Nuncio

“Follow me, and leave the dead to bury their own dead.”
Mt 8:22

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1. WE LIVE IN EXTRAORDINARY TIMES
As each of us has probably understood, we find ourselves in an historical moment in time; events of the past, which once seemed disconnected, prove now to be unequivocally connected, both in the principles that inspire them and in the goals they seek to achieve. A fair and objective look at the current situation cannot help but grasp the perfect coherence between the evolution of the global political framework and the role that the Catholic Church has assumed in the establishment of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. To be more precise, one should speak about the role of that apparent majority in the Church, which is actually small in number but extremely powerful, and which, for brevity’s sake, I will summarize as the deep church.
Obviously, there are not two Churches, something that would be impossible, blasphemous, and heretical. Nor has the one true Church of Christ today failed in her mission, perverting herself into a sect. The Church of Christ has nothing to do with those who, for the past sixty years, have executed a plan to occupy her. The overlap between the Catholic Hierarchy and the members of the deep church is not a theological fact, but rather a historical reality that defies the usual categories and, as such, must be analyzed.
We know that the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr project consists in the establishment of tyranny by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ: a project that dates back to the French Revolution, the Age of Enlightenment, the end of the Catholic Monarchies, and the declaration of war on the Church. We can say that the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is the antithesis of Christian society, it would be the realization of the diabolical Civitas Diaboli – City of the Devil – opposed to the Civitas Dei – City of God – in the eternal struggle between Light and Darkness, Good and Evil, God and Satan.
In this struggle, Providence has placed the Church of Christ, and in particular the Supreme Pontiff, as kathèkon – that is, the one who opposes the manifestation of the mystery of iniquity (2 Thess 2:6-7). And Sacred Scripture warns us that at the manifestation of the Antichrist, this obstacle – the kathèkon – will have ceased to exist. It seems quite evident to me that the end times are now approaching before our eyes, since the mystery of iniquity has spread throughout the world with the disappearance of the courageous opposition of the kathèkon.
[With regard to the incompatibility between the City of God and the City of Satan, the Jesuit advisor to Francis, Antonio Spadaro, sets aside Sacred Scripture and Tradition, making the Bergoglian embrassons-nous his own. According to the Director of La Civiltà Cattolica, the Encyclical Fratelli Tutti
“also remains a message with a strong political value, because – we could say – it overturns the logic of the apocalypse that prevails today. It is the fundamentalist logic that fights against the world, because it believes that it is the opposite of God, that is, an idol, and therefore to be destroyed as soon as possible in order to accelerate the end of time. The abyss of the apocalypse, in fact, before which there are no more brothers: only apostates or martyrs running “against” time. [...] We are not militants or apostates, but all brothers.”[1]
This strategy of discrediting the interlocutor with the slur of “integralist” is evidently aimed at facilitating the action of the enemy within the Church, seeking to disarm the opposition and discourage dissent. We also find it in the civil sphere, where the democrats and the deep state arrogate to themselves the right to decide whom to grant political legitimacy and whom to condemn without appeal to media ostracism. The method is always the same, because the one inspiring is the same. Just as the falsification of History and of the sources, is always the same: if the past disavows the revolutionary narrative, the followers of the Revolution censor the past and replace historical fact with a myth. Even St. Francis is a victim of this adulteration that would have him be the standard-bearer of poverty and pacifism, that are as alien to the spirit of Catholic orthodoxy as they are instrumental to the dominant ideology. Proof of this is the last, fraudulent recourse to the Poverello of Assisi in Fratelli Tutti to justify dialogue, ecuмenism, and the universal brotherhood of the Bergoglian anti-church.]
Let us not make the mistake of presenting the current events as “normal,” judging what happens with the legal, canonical, and sociological parameters that such normality would presuppose. In extraordinary times – and the present crisis in the Church is indeed extraordinary – events go beyond the ordinary known to our fathers. In extraordinary times, we can hear a Pope deceive the faithful; see Princes of the Church accused of crimes that in other times would have aroused horror and been met with severe punishment; witness in our churches liturgical rites that seem to have been invented by Cranmer’s perverse mind; see Prelates process the unclean idol of the pachamama into St. Peter’s Basilica; and hear the Vicar of Christ apologize to the worshippers of that simulacrum if a Catholic dares to throw it into the Tiber. In these extraordinary times, we hear a conspirator – Cardinal Godfried Danneels – tell us that, since the death of John Paul II, the Mafia of St. Gallen had been plotting to elect one of their own to Peter’s Chair, which later turned out to be Jorge Mario Bergoglio. In the face of this disconcerting revelation, we might well be astonished that neither Cardinals nor Bishops expressed their indignation nor asked that the truth be brought to light.
[The coexistence of good and evil, of saints and the damned, in the ecclesial body, has always accompanied the earthly events of the Church, beginning with the betrayal of the Judas Iscariot. And it is indeed significant that the anti-church tries to rehabilitate Judas – and with him the worst heresiarchs – as exemplary models, “anti-saints” and “anti-martyrs,” and thereby legitimizing themselves in their own heresies, immorality and vices. The coexistence – I was saying – of the good and the wicked, of which the Gospel speaks in the Parable of the Wheat and the Tares, seems to have morphed into the prevalence of the latter over the former. The difference is that vice and deviations once despised are today not only practiced and tolerated more, but even encouraged and praised, while virtue and fidelity to the teaching of Christ are despised, mocked and even condemned.]
2. THE ECLIPSE OF THE TRUE CHURCH
For sixty years, we have witnessed the eclipse of the true Church by an anti-church that has progressively appropriated her name, occupied the Roman Curia and her Dicasteries, Dioceses and Parishes, Seminaries and Universities, Convents and Monasteries. The anti-church has usurped her authority, and its ministers wear her sacred garments; it uses her prestige and power to appropriate her treasures, assets, and finances.
Just as happens in nature, this eclipse does not take place all at once; it passes from light to darkness when a celestial body inserts itself between the sun and us. This is a relatively slow but inexorable process, in which the moon of the anti-church follows its orbit until it overlaps the sun, generating a cone of shadow that projects over the earth. We now find ourselves in this doctrinal, moral, liturgical, and disciplinary cone of shadow. It is not yet the total eclipse that we will see at the end of time, under the reign of the Antichrist. But it is a partial eclipse, which lets us see the luminous crown of the sun encircling the black disk of the moon.
The process that led to today’s eclipse of the Church began with Modernism, without a doubt. The anti-church followed its orbit despite the solemn condemnations of the Magisterium, which in that phase shone with the splendor of Truth. But with the Second Vatican Council, the darkness of this spurious entity came over the Church. Initially it obscured only a small part, but the darkness gradually increased. Whoever then pointed to the sun, deducing that the moon would certainly obscure it, was accused of being a “prophet of doom,” with those forms of fanaticism and intemperance that arise from ignorance and prejudice. The case of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and a few other Prelates confirms, on the one hand, the far-sightedness of these shepherds and, on the other hand, the disjointed reaction of their adversaries; who, out of fear of losing power, used all their authority to deny the evidence and kept hidden their own true intentions.
To continue the analogy: we can say that, in the sky of the Faith, an eclipse is a rare and extraordinary phenomenon. But to deny that, during the eclipse, darkness spreads – just because this does not happen under ordinary conditions – is not a sign of faith in the indefectibility of the Church, but rather an obstinate denial of the evidence, or bad faith. The Holy Church, according to Christ’s promises, will never be overwhelmed by the gates of hell, but that does not mean that she will not be – or is not already – overshadowed by her infernal forgery, that moon which, not by chance, we see under the feet of the Woman of the Revelation: “A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars” (Rev 12:1).
The moon lies under the feet of the Woman who is above all mutability, above all earthly corruption, above the law of fate and the kingdom of the spirit of this world. And this is because that Woman, who is at once the image of Mary Most Holy and of the Church, is amicta sole, clothed with the Sun of Righteousness that is Christ, “exempted from all demonic power as she takes part in the mystery of the immutability of Christ” (Saint Ambrose). She remains unbruised if not in her militant kingdom, certainly in the suffering one in Purgatory and in the triumphant one in Paradise. St. Jerome, commenting on the words of Scripture, reminds us that “the gates of hell are sins and vices, especially the teachings of heretics.” We know therefore that even the “synthesis of all heresies” represented by Modernism and its updated conciliar version, can never definitively obscure the splendor of the Bride of Christ, but only for the brief period of the eclipse that Providence, in its infinite wisdom, has allowed, to draw from it a greater good.
3. THE ABANDONMENT OF THE SUPERNATURAL DIMENSION
In this talk, I wish especially to deal with the relationship between the revolution of Vatican II and the establishment of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. The focal element of this analysis consists in highlighting the abandonment on the part of the ecclesiastical Hierarchy, even at the top, of the supernatural dimension of the Church and its eschatological role. With the Council, the Innovators erased the divine origin of the Church from their theological horizon, creating an entity of human origin similar to a philanthropic organization. The first consequence of this ontological subversion was the necessary denial of the fact that the Bride of Christ is not, and cannot be, subject to change by those who exercise vicarious authority in the name of the Lord. She is neither the property of the Pope nor of the Bishops or theologians, and, as such, any attempt at “Aggiornamento” lowers her to the level of a company that, in order to garner profit, renews its own commercial offer, sells its leftovers stock, and follows the fashion of the moment. The Church, on the other hand, is a supernatural and divine reality: she adapts the way she preaches the Gospel to the nations, but she can never change the content of a single iota (Mt 5:18), nor deny her transcendent momentum by lowering herself to mere social service. On the opposite side, the anti-church proudly lays claims to the right to perform a paradigm shift not only by changing the way doctrine is expounded, but the doctrine itself. [This is confirmed by the words of Massimo Fagggioli comment on the new Encyclical Fratelli Tutti:
“Pope Francis’ pontificate is like a standard lifted up before Catholic integralists and those who equate material continuity and tradition: Catholic doctrine does not just develop. Sometimes it really changes: for example on [the] death penalty, [and] war.”[2]]
Insisting on what the Magisterium teaches is useless. The Innovators’ brazen claim to have the right to change the Faith stubbornly follows the modernist approach.
The Council’s first error consists mainly in the lack of a transcendent perspective – the result of a spiritual crisis that was already latent – and in the attempt to establish paradise on earth, with a sterile human horizon. In line with this approach, Fratelli tutti sees the fulfillment of an earthly utopia and social redemption in human brotherhood, pax œcuмenica between religions and welcoming migrants.
4. THE SENSE OF INFERIORITY AND INADEQUACY
As I have written on other occasions, the revolutionary demands of the Nouvelle Théologie found fertile ground in the Council Fathers because of a serious inferiority complex vis-à-vis the world. There was a time, in the postwar period, when the revolution led by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the civil, political and cultural spheres, breached the Catholic élite, persuading it of its inadequacy in the face of an epochal challenge that is now inescapable. Instead of questioning themselves and their faith, this élite – bishops, theologians, intellectuals – recklessly attributed responsibility for the imminent failure of the Church to her rock-solid hierarchical structure, and to her monolithic doctrinal and moral teaching. Looking at the defeat of the European civilization that the Church had helped to form, the élite thought that the lack of agreement with the world was caused by the intransigence of the Papacy and the moral rigidity of priests not wanting to come to terms with the Zeitgeist, and “open up.” This ideological approach stems from the false assumption that, between the Church and the contemporary world, there can be an alliance, a consonance of intent, a friendship. Nothing could be further from the truth, since there can be no respite in the struggle between God and Satan, between Light and Darkness. “I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel” (Gen 3:15). This is an enmity willed by God Himself, which places Mary Most Holy – and the Church – as eternal enemies of the ancient serpent. The world has its own prince (Jn 12:31), who is the “enemy” (Mt 13:28), a “murderer from the beginning” (Jn 8:44) and a “liar” (Jn 8:44). Courting a pact of non-belligerence with the world means coming to terms with Satan. This overturns and perverts the very essence of the Church, whose mission is to convert as many souls to Christ for the greater glory of God, without ever laying down arms against those who want to attract them to themselves and to damnation.
[The Church’s sense of inferiority and failure before the world created the “perfect storm” for the revolution to take root in the Council Fathers and by extension in the Christian people, in whom obedience to the Hierarchy had been cultivated perhaps more than fidelity to the depositum fidei. Let me it be clear: obedience to the Sacred Pastors is certainly praiseworthy if the commands are legitimate. But obedience ceases to be a virtue and, in fact, becomes servility if it is an end in itself and if it contradicts the purpose to which it is ordained, namely Faith and Morals. We should add, that this sense of inferiority was introduced into the ecclesial body with displays of great theater, such as the removal of the tiara by Paul VI, the return of the Ottoman flagship banners conquered at Lepanto, the flaunted ecuмenical embraces with the schismatic Athenagoras, the requests for forgiveness for the Crusades, the abolition of the Index, the Clergy’s focus on the poor in place to the alleged triumphalism of Pius XII. The coup de grâce of this attitude was codified in the Reformed Liturgy, which manifests its embarrassment of Catholic dogma by silencing it – and thus denying it indirectly. The ritual change engendered a doctrinal change, which led the faithful to believe that the Mass is a simple fraternal banquet and that the Most Holy Eucharist is merely a symbol of Christ’s presence among us.]
5. “IDEM SENTIRE” OF REVOLUTION AND COUNCIL
The Council Fathers’ sense of inadequacy was only increased by the work of the Innovators, whose heretical ideas coincided with the demands of the world. A comparative analysis of modern thought confirms the idem sentire [same feeling or same mind] of the conspirators with every element of the revolutionary ideology:
[- the acceptance of the democratic principle as the legitimizing source of power, in place of the divine right of the Catholic Monarchy (including the Papacy);
- the creation and accuмulation of organs of power, in place of personal responsibility and institutional hierarchy;
- the erasure of the historical past, evaluated with today’s parameters, which fail to defend tradition and cultural heritage;
- the emphasis on the freedom of individuals and the weakening of the concept of responsibility and duty;
- the continuous evolution of morality and ethics, thus deprived of their immutable nature and of any transcendent reference;
- the presumed secular nature of the State, in place of the rightful submission of civil order to the Kingship of Jesus Christ and the ontological superiority of the Church’s mission over that of the temporal sphere;
- the equality of religions not only before the State, but even as a general concept to which the Church must conform, against the objective and necessary defense of the Truth and the condemnation of error;
- the false and blasphemous concept of the dignity of man as connatural to him, based on the denial of original sin and of the need for Redemption as a premise for pleasing God, meriting His Grace and attaining eternal beatitude;
- the undermining of the role of women, the contempt and a contempt for the privilege of motherhood;
- the primacy of matter over spirit;
- the fideistic relationship with science[3], in the face of a ruthless criticism of religion on false scientific grounds.
All these principles, propagated by Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ ideologues and nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr supporters, coincide with the revolutionary ideas of the Council:
- the democratization of the Church began with Lumen Gentium and today it is realized in the Bergoglian synodal path;
- the creation and accuмulation of organs of power has been achieved by delegating decision-making roles to Episcopal Conferences, Synods of Bishops, Commissions, Pastoral Councils, etc.;
- the Church’s past and glorious traditions are judged according to the modern mentality and condemned in order to curry favor with the modern world;
- the “freedom of the children of God” theorized by Vatican II has been established regardless of the moral duties of individuals who, according to the conciliar fairytales, are all saved regardless of their inner dispositions and the state of their soul;
- the obfuscating of perennial moral references has led to the revised doctrine on capital punishment; and, with Amoris Laetitia, the admission of public adulterers to the Sacraments, cracking the sacramental edifice;
- the adoption of the concept of secularism has led to the abolition of a State Religion in Catholic nations. Encouraged by the Holy See and the Episcopate, this has led to a loss of religious identity and the recognition of rights of sects, as well as the approval of norms that violate natural and divine law;
- the religious freedom theorized in Dignitatis Humanae is today brought to its logical and extreme consequences with the Declaration of Abu Dhabi and the latest Encyclical Fratelli Tutti, rendering the saving mission of the Church and the Incarnation itself obsolete;

- theories on human dignity in the Catholic sphere have led to confusion about the role of the laity with respect to the ministerial role of the Clergy and a weakening of the hierarchical structure of the Church. While the embrace of feminist ideology is a prelude to the admission of women to the Holy Orders;
- an inordinate preoccupation with the temporal needs of the poor, so typical of the left, has transformed the Church into a sort of welfare association, limiting her activity to the mere material sphere, almost to the point of abandoning the spiritual;
- subservience to modern science and technological progress has led the Church to disavow the “Queen of the Science” [Faith], to “demythologize” miracles, to deny the inerrancy of Sacred Scripture, to look at the most sacred Mysteries of our Holy Religion as “myths” or “metaphors,” sacrilegiously suggesting that Transubstantiation and the Resurrection itself are “magic” (not to be taken literally but rather symbolically), and to describe the sublime Marian dogmas are “tonterias” [nonsense].]
There is an almost grotesque aspect of this leveling and dumbing down of the Hierarchy to comply with mainstream thought. The hierarchy’s desire to please its persecutors and serve its enemies always comes too late and is out of sync, giving the impression that the Bishops are irremediably outdated, indeed not in step with the times. They lead those who see them so enthusiastically conniving with their own extinction to believe that this demonstration of courtesan submission to politically correct comes not so much from a true ideological persuasion, but rather from the fear of being swept away, of losing power, and no longer having that prestige that the world still pays them, nonetheless. They do not realize – or do not want to admit – that the prestige and authority whose custodians they are, comes from the authority and prestige of the Church of Christ, and not from the miserable, pitiful counterfeit of her which they have fashioned.
When this anti-church is fully established in the total eclipse of the Catholic Church, the authority of its leaders will depend on the degree of subjugation to the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, which will not tolerate any divergence from its own creed and will ruthlessly apply that dogmatism, t fanaticism and fundamentalism that many Prelates and self-styled intellectuals criticize in those who remain faithful to the Magisterium today. In this way, the deep church may continue to bear the trademark “Catholic Church,” but it will be the slave of the New Order thinking, reminiscent of the Jews who, after denying the Kingship of Christ before Pilate, were enslaved to the civil authority of their time: “We have no other king but Caesar” (Jn 19:15). Today’s Caesar commands us to close the churches, wear a mask, and suspend the celebrations under the pretext of a pseudo-pandemic. The communist regime persecutes the Chinese Catholics, and the world hears nothing but silence from Rome. Tomorrow a new Titus will sack the Council temple, transporting its remains to some museum, and divine vengeance at the hands of the pagans will have been achieved once again.
6. THE INSTRUMENTAL ROLE OF THE MODERATE CATHOLICS IN THE REVOLUTION
Some might say that the Council Fathers and Popes who presided over that assembly, did not realize the implications that their approval of the Vatican II docuмents would have for the future of the Church. If this were the case – i.e., if there had been any subsequent regrets in their hasty approval of heretical texts or texts close to heresy – it is difficult to understand why they were unable to put an immediate stop to abuses, correct errors, clarify misunderstandings and omissions. And above all, it is incomprehensible why the ecclesiastical Authority has been so ruthless against those who defended the Catholic Truth, and, at the same time, were so terribly accommodating to rebels and heretics. In any case, the responsibility for the conciliar crisis must be laid at the feet of the Authority which, even amid a thousand appeals to collegiality and pastoralism, has jealously guarded its prerogatives, exercising them only in one direction, that is, against the pusillus grex [little flock] and never against the enemies of God and of the Church. The very rare exceptions, when a heretic theologian or revolutionary religious has been censored by the Holy Office, only offer tragic confirmation of a rule that has been enforced for decades; not to mention that many of them, in recent times, have been rehabilitated without any abjuration of their errors and even promoted to institutional positions in the Roman Curia or Pontifical Athenaeums.
This is the reality, as it emerges from my analysis. However, we know that, in addition to the progressive wing of the Council and the traditional Catholic wing, there is a part of the Episcopate, the clergy, and the people that attempts to keep equal distance from what it considers two extremes. I am talking about the so-called “conservatives,” that is, a centrist part of the ecclesial body that ends up “carrying water” for the Revolutionaries because, while rejecting their excesses, it shares the same principles. The error of the “conservatives” lies in giving a negative connotation to traditionalism and in placing it on the opposite side of progressivism. Their aurea mediocritas [via media] consists in arbitrarily placing themselves not between two vices, but between virtue and vice. They are the ones who criticize the excesses of the pachamama or of the most extreme of Bergoglio’s statements, but who do not tolerate the Council’s being questioned, let alone the intrinsic link between the conciliar cancer and the current metastasis. The correlation between political conservatism and religious conservatism consists in adopting the “center,” a synthesis between the “right” thesis and the “left” antithesis, according to the Hegelian approach so cherished by moderate supporters of the Council.
[In the civil sphere, the deep state has managed political and social dissent by using organizations and movements that are only apparently opposition, but which are actually instrumental to maintaining power. Similarly, in the ecclesial sphere, the deep church uses the moderate “conservatives” to give an appearance of offering freedom to the faithful. The Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificuм itself, for example, while granting the celebration in the extraordinary form, demands saltem impliciter [at least implicitly] that we accept the Council and recognize the lawfulness of the reformed liturgy. This ploy prevents those who benefit from the Motu Proprio from raising any objection, or they risk the dissolution of the Ecclesia Dei communities. And it instills in the Christian people the dangerous idea that a good thing, in order to have legitimacy in the Church and society, must necessarily be accompanied by a bad thing or at least something less good. However, only a misguided mind would seek to afford equal rights to both good and evil. It matters little if one is personally in favor of good, when he recognizes the legitimacy of those who are in favor of evil. In this sense, the “freedom to choose” abortion theorized by democratic politicians finds its counterbalance in the no less aberrant “religious freedom” theorized by the Council, which today is stubbornly defended by the anti-church. If it is not permissible for a Catholic to support a politician who defends the right to abortion, it is even less permissible to approve a Prelate who defends the “freedom” of an individual to endanger his immortal soul by “choosing” to remain in mortal sin. This is not mercy; this is gross dereliction of spiritual duty before God in order to curry the favor and approval of Man.
7. “OPEN SOCIETY” AND “OPEN RELIGION”
This analysis would hardly be complete without a word on the neo-language so popular in the ecclesiastical sphere. Traditional Catholic vocabulary has been deliberately modified, in order to change the content it expresses. The same has happened in the liturgy and preaching, where the clarity of the Catholic exposition has been replaced by ambiguity or the implicit denial of dogmatic truth. The examples are endless. This phenomenon also goes back to Vatican II, which sought to develop “Catholic” versions of the slogans of the world. Nevertheless, I would like to emphasize that all those expressions that are borrowed from secularist lexicons are also part of the neo-language. Let us consider the Bergoglio’s insistence on the “outgoing church,” on openness as a positive value. Similarly, I quote now from Fratelli tutti:
“A living and dynamic people, a people with a future, is one constantly open to a new synthesis through its ability to welcome differences” (Fratelli Tutti, 160).
“The Church is a home with open doors” (ibid. 276).
“We want to be a Church that serves, that leaves home and goes forth from its places of worship, goes forth from its sacristies, in order to accompany life, to sustain hope, to be the sign of unity… to build bridges, to break down walls, to sow seeds of reconciliation” (ibid.).
The similarity with the Open Society sought after by Soros’ globalist ideology is so striking as to almost constitute an Open Religion counterpoint to it.
And this Open Religion is perfectly in tune with the intentions of globalism. From the political meetings “for a New Humanism” blessed by the leaders of the Church to the participation of the progressive intelligentsia in green propaganda, it all chases after the mainstream thought, in the sad and grotesque attempt to please the world. The stark contrast with the words of the Apostle is clear: “Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ” (Gal. 1:10).
The Catholic Church lives under the gaze of God; she exists for His glory and for the salvation of souls. The anti-church lives under the gaze of the world, pandering to the blasphemous apotheosis of man and the damnation of souls. During the last session of the Second Vatican Ecuмenical Council, before all the Synod Fathers, these astonishing words of Paul VI resounded in the Vatican Basilica:
“The religion of the God who became man has met the religion (for such it is) of man who makes himself God. And what happened? Was there a clash, a battle, a condemnation? There could have been, but there was none. The old story of the Samaritan has been the model of the spirituality of the council. A feeling of boundless sympathy has permeated the whole of it. The attention of our council has been absorbed by the discovery of human needs (and these needs grow in proportion to the greatness which the son of the earth claims for himself). But we call upon those who term themselves modern humanists, and who have renounced the transcendent value of the highest realities, to give the council credit at least for one quality and to recognize our own new type of humanism: we, too, in fact, we more than any others, honor mankind.”[4]
This sympathy [– in the etymological sense of συμπάϑεια, that is, participation in the sentiment of the other –] is the figure of the Council and of the new religion (for such it is) of the anti-church. An anti-church born of the unclean union between the Church and the world, between the heavenly Jerusalem and hellish Babylon. Note well: the first time a Pontiff mentioned the “new humanism” was at the final session of Vatican II, and today we find it repeated as a mantra by those who consider it a perfect and coherent expression of the revolutionary mens [frame of mind] of the Council.[5]
Always in view of this communion of intent between the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and the anti-church, we must remember the Global Compact on Education, a project designed by Bergoglio “to generate a change on a planetary scale, so that education is a creator of brotherhood, peace and justice. An even more urgent need in this time marked by the pandemic”.[6] Promoted in collaboration with the United Nations, this “process of formation in the relationship and culture of encounter also finds space and value in the ‘common home’ with all creatures, since people, just as they are formed to the logic of communion and solidarity, are already working “to recover serene harmony with creation”, and to configure the world as “a space of true brotherhood” (Gaudium et Spes, 37).”[7] As can be seen, the ideological reference is always and only to Vatican II, because only from that moment on did the anti-church place man in the place of God, the creature in the place of the Creator.
The “new humanism” obviously has an environmental and ecological frame into which are grafted both the Encyclical Laudato Sì and Green Theology – the “Church with an Amazonian face” of the 2019 Synod of Bishops, with its idolatrous worship of pachamama (mother earth) in the presence of the Roman Sanhedrin. The Church’s attitude during Covid-19 demonstrated, on the one hand, the hierarchy’s submission to the diktats of the State, in violation of the Libertas Ecclesiae, which the Pope should have firmly defended. It also put on display the denial of any supernatural meaning of the pandemic, replacing the righteous wrath of God offended by the countless sins of humanity and nations with a more disturbing and destructive fury of Nature, offended by the lack of respect for the environment. I would like to emphasize that attributing a personal identity to Nature, almost endowed with intellect and will, is a prelude to her divinization. We have already seen a sacrilegious prelude to this, under the very dome of St. Peter’s Basilica.
The bottom line is this: conformity on the part of the anti-church with the dominant ideology of the modern world establishes a real cooperation with powerful representatives of the deep state, starting with those working towards a “sustainable economy” involving Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Bill Gates, Jeffrey Sachs, John Elkann, Gunter Pauli.[8]
[It will be useful to remember that the sustainable economy also has implications for agriculture and the world of work in general. The deep state needs to secure low-cost labor through immigration, which at the same time contributes to the cancellation of the religious, cultural and linguistic identity of the nations involved. The deep church lends an ideological and pseudo-theological basis to this invasion plan, and at the same time guarantees a share in the lucrative business of hospitality. We can understand Bergoglio’s insistence on the theme of migrants, also reiterated in Fratelli Tutti: “A xenophobic mentality of closure and self-restraint is spreading” (ibid. 39. “Migrations will constitute a founding element of the future of the world” (ibid. 40). Bergoglio used the expression “founding element,” stating that it is not possible to hypothesize a future without migrations.]
Allow me a brief word about the political situation in the United States on the eve of the presidential election. Fratelli Tutti seems to be a form of Vatican endorsement of the Democratic candidate, in clear opposition to Donald Trump, and come a few days after Francis refused to grant audience to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Rome. This confirms which side the children of light are on, and who the children of darkness are.
8. THE IDEOLOGICAL FOUNDATIONS OF “BROTHERHOOD”
The theme of brotherhood, an obsession for Bergoglio, finds its first formulation in Nostra Ætate and Dignitatis Humanae. The latest Encyclical, Fratelli Tutti, is the manifesto of this Masonic vision, in which the cry Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité replaced the Gospel, for the sake of a unity among men that leaves out God. Note that the Docuмent on Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together signed in Abu Dhabi on February 4, 2019 was proudly defended by Bergoglio with these words:
“From the Catholic point of view the docuмent did not go one millimeter beyond the Second Vatican Council.”
Cardinal Miguel Ayuso Guixot, President of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, comments in La Civiltà Cattolica:
[“With the Council, the embankment gradually cracked and then broke: The river of dialogue has spread with the Council Declarations Nostra Ætate on the relationship between the Church and believers of other religions and Dignitatis Humanae on religious freedom, themes and docuмents that are closely linked to each other, and have allowed St. John Paul II to give life to meetings such as the World Day of Prayer for Peace in Assisi on October 27, 1986 and Benedict XVI, twenty-five years later, to make us live in the city of St. Francis the Day of Reflection, Dialogue and Prayer for Peace and Justice in the World – Pilgrims of Truth, Pilgrims of Peace. Therefore,] the Catholic Church’s commitment to interreligious dialogue, which opens the way to peace and fraternity, is part of her original mission and has its roots in the Council event.”[9]
Once again, the cancer of Vatican II confirms that it is at the origin of Bergoglian metastasis. The fil rouge [common thread] that unites the Council with the cult of the pachamama also passes through Assisi, as my Brother Athanasius Schneider rightly pointed out in his recent speech.[10]
And speaking of the anti-church, Bishop Fulton Sheen describes the Antichrist: “Since his religion will be brotherhood without the paternity of God, he will deceive even the elect.”[11] We seem to see the prophecy of the venerable American Archbishop coming true before our eyes.
It is no surprise, therefore, that the infamous Grand Lodge of Spain, after having warmly congratulated its paladin raised to the Throne, has once again paid homage to Bergoglio with these words:
[“The great principle of this initiatory school has not changed in three centuries: the construction of a universal brotherhood where human beings call themselves brothers to each other beyond their specific beliefs, their ideologies, the color of their skin, their social extraction, their language, their culture or their nationality. This fraternal dream clashed with religious fundamentalism which, in the case of the Catholic Church, led to harsh texts condemning the tolerance of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in the 19th century.] Pope Francis’ latest encyclical shows how far the present Catholic Church is from its previous positions. In “Fratelli Tutti”, the pope embraced the Universal Brotherhood, the great principle of modern Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ.”[/font][/size]

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2020, 01:36:16 PM »

“In extraordinary times,” he explains, “events go beyond the ordinary known to our fathers. In extraordinary times, we can hear a Pope deceive the faithful; see Princes of the Church accused of crimes that in other times would have aroused horror and been met with severe punishment; witness in our churches liturgical rites that seem to have been invented by Cranmer’s perverse mind; see Prelates process the unclean idol of the pachamama into St. Peter’s Basilica; and hear the Vicar of Christ apologize to the worshippers of that simulacrum if a Catholic dares to throw it into the Tiber.” Here, even the usual canonical categories seem to fail.

But the “Bergoglian anti-church” has a beginning before the time of Pope Francis, according to Viganò; it goes back 60 years. During that time, “we have witnessed the eclipse of the true Church by an anti-church that has progressively appropriated her name, occupied the Roman Curia and her Dicasteries, Dioceses and Parishes, Seminaries and Universities, Convents and Monasteries.” According to the archbishop, this anti-church has “usurped her authority, and its ministers wear her sacred garments; it uses her prestige and power to appropriate her treasures, assets, and finances.”

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2020, 01:58:20 PM »

"Obviously, there are not two Churches, something that would be impossible, blasphemous, and heretical. Nor has the one true Church of Christ today failed in her mission, perverting herself into a sect. The Church of Christ has nothing to do with those who, for the past sixty years, have executed a plan to occupy her. The overlap between the Catholic Hierarchy and the members of the deep church is not a theological fact, but rather a historical reality that defies the usual categories and, as such, must be analyzed."

forlorn · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2020, 02:05:49 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 25, 2020, 01:58:20 PM

"Obviously, there are not two Churches, something that would be impossible, blasphemous, and heretical. Nor has the one true Church of Christ today failed in her mission, perverting herself into a sect. The Church of Christ has nothing to do with those who, for the past sixty years, have executed a plan to occupy her. The overlap between the Catholic Hierarchy and the members of the deep church is not a theological fact, but rather a historical reality that defies the usual categories and, as such, must be analyzed."

Glad to see the Archbishop agrees with me here.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2020, 02:12:12 PM »

Quote from: forlorn on October 25, 2020, 02:05:49 PM

Glad to see the Archbishop agrees with me here.

There are not two churches (technically), because they are not completely distinct.

Nevertheless, the one he calls conciliar, or deep church, or Bergolian is a counterfeit overlayed on top of the Catholic Church (as he states in the previously quoted paragraph, and in his previous writings.

In this, he is in perfect harmony with Lefebvre, Tissier, and Avrille (and all of the traditional movement).

Vigano states again:

"The Catholic Church lives under the gaze of God; she exists for His glory and for the salvation of souls. The anti-church lives under the gaze of the world, pandering to the blasphemous apotheosis of man and the damnation of souls."

And then:

"During the last session of the Second Vatican Ecuмenical Council, before all the Synod Fathers, these astonishing words of Paul VI resounded in the Vatican Basilica:
“The religion of the God who became man has met the religion (for such it is) of man who makes himself God. And what happened? Was there a clash, a battle, a condemnation? There could have been, but there was none. The old story of the Samaritan has been the model of the spirituality of the council. A feeling of boundless sympathy has permeated the whole of it. The attention of our council has been absorbed by the discovery of human needs (and these needs grow in proportion to the greatness which the son of the earth claims for himself). But we call upon those who term themselves modern humanists, and who have renounced the transcendent value of the highest realities, to give the council credit at least for one quality and to recognize our own new type of humanism: we, too, in fact, we more than any others, honor mankind.”[4]
This sympathy [– in the etymological sense of συμπάϑεια, that is, participation in the sentiment of the other –] is the figure of the Council and of the new religion (for such it is) of the anti-church. An anti-church born of the unclean union between the Church and the world, between the heavenly Jerusalem and hellish Babylon. Note well: the first time a Pontiff mentioned the “new humanism” was at the final session of Vatican II, and today we find it repeated as a mantra by those who consider it a perfect and coherent expression of the revolutionary mens [frame of mind] of the Council.[5]

songbird · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2020, 03:37:19 PM »

Why, oh Why do some people wait til they are old and gray, retired, and then say oh, the Church is the City of the Devil?

Viagno just yaks and yaks and what is his solution? Why does he say, oh, for 60 years... and where was he in those 60 years? Does he go to confession to say oh, I am so sorry for serving the demons for 60 years?

So, what is all his yacking about! Does he have life to give to the people, for their souls, with any kind of sacrament called, Precious Blood? No. He talks like a politician. Then he has nothing to offer the souls of man, not even his own. So, very strange!

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2020, 04:52:11 PM »

Quote from: songbird on October 25, 2020, 03:37:19 PM

Why, oh Why do some people wait til they are old and gray, retired, and then say oh, the Church is the City of the Devil?

Viagno just yaks and yaks and what is his solution? Why does he say, oh, for 60 years... and where was he in those 60 years? Does he go to confession to say oh, I am so sorry for serving the demons for 60 years?

So, what is all his yacking about! Does he have life to give to the people, for their souls, with any kind of sacrament called, Precious Blood? No. He talks like a politician. Then he has nothing to offer the souls of man, not even his own. So, very strange!

And he should do, what, exactly?

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2020, 10:55:53 AM »

Here is the video, I like to listen while working around the house. Worth every minute.

songbird · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2020, 10:59:28 AM »

Solution is the Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, in the valid Traditional Masses, in the valid sacraments. Our Lady's Rosary.

claudel · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:03:50 PM »

Quote from: songbird on October 25, 2020, 03:37:19 PM

[Viganò] just yaks and yaks and what is his solution? Why does he say, oh, for 60 years ... and where was he in those 60 years? Does he go to confession to say oh, I am so sorry for serving the demons for 60 years?

Perhaps if you spent less time yakking and more time paying attention, you would notice that ++Viganò has already publicly acknowledged and apologized for his own part in furthering the conciliar abominations he now deplores and actively seeks to revert.

Was Our Lord speaking to you when he called upon the person without sin to cast the first stone?

Frank · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:13:42 PM »

That unfortunate Catholic Identity Conference. Tradecuмenism.

Stubborn · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:25:08 PM »

Quote from: songbird on October 25, 2020, 03:37:19 PM

Why, oh Why do some people wait til they are old and gray, retired, and then say oh, the Church is the City of the Devil?

Viagno just yaks and yaks and what is his solution? Why does he say, oh, for 60 years... and where was he in those 60 years? Does he go to confession to say oh, I am so sorry for serving the demons for 60 years?

So, what is all his yacking about! Does he have life to give to the people, for their souls, with any kind of sacrament called, Precious Blood? No. He talks like a politician. Then he has nothing to offer the souls of man, not even his own. So, very strange!

I want to say the same, but we need to remember songbird that he just woke up, and archbishop or not, he has much yet to learn. Right now he is something more than a conservative NOer and less than a true trad. He has a lifetime of brainwashing in liberalism that he has to work through, give him time.

claudel · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:46:39 PM »

I would draw readers' attention to two brief paragraphs that embody the care that ++Viganò characteristically takes in his analyses, evaluations, and accusations. I refer to the paragraphs that begin at "Obviously, there are not two Churches" and end at "the eternal struggle between Light and Darkness, Good and Evil, God and Satan." It is here that the archbishop implicitly distinguishes between the birth of the present crisis within the Church and its extended historical gestation, a process that, as he states, ought to be thought of as beginning with the Enlightenment.

There is great care and significance, too, in his references to Modernism, which serve to underline the identity of the already deeply rooted phenomenon denounced by Pius X in Pascendi and its full flowering half a century later in the work of the council. Modern-day men and women have been trained to think of "the distant past" as a term that refers, at the utmost extent, to the time when their parents were adolescents. This, of course, is how the Jews and the other enemies of the Cross want us to think about history—namely, as a chalkboard that gets erased on virtually a daily basis. The fact that the present pope also plainly wishes us to think this way lends further supports to the thesis that he is, to adopt a phrase used by ++Viganò that affords the most generous interpretation, at least carrying water for the Enemy of God.

s2srea · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2020, 12:50:19 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn on October 27, 2020, 12:25:08 PM

I want to say the same, but we need to remember songbird that he just woke up, and archbishop or not, he has much yet to learn. Right now he is something more than a conservative NOer and less than a true trad. He has a lifetime of brainwashing in liberalism that he has to work through, give him time.

I absolutely disagree with this. Have you listened to his speech? He may not be operating with the SSPX-MC or CMRI, but that doesn't qualify him as not a "true trad". And I'm sorry to say, but if you think that any of us are beyond liberal brainwashing influence, then I don't know what to tell you.
A few things he's mentioned:

-Untold Praise for +ABL's foresight and fight
-Condemn's VII for what it truly was- a robber council
-Calls out the "deep church"
I get it. This Churchman doesn't see eye-to-eye with your every view and synopsis of the Crisis. But trads need to show a little humility and admit they don't have all the answers and have it all figured out. We're pretty good at eating our own, I think that history has more than proven that.
There IS a reason that trads have a reputation for a lack of charity. It ain't all made up by liberal Catholics, let me tell you.
We need to have humility. We need to admit that we may not have all the answers, and be weary of those who propose to. If you're a sedevecantist, maybe I'm not speaking to you as much and I guess you shouldn't be reading this anyways. But for the rest of us, I'm not saying this is the Restoration of the Church. But it's a step in the right direction.

Also, I get condemning "trad-cuмenism". But I've seen no evidence of anyone one at Matt's convention is relinquishing their values or positions for the sake of "trad-cuмenism". Perhaps, just perhaps, they realize the necessity of Catholic unity. Much as is sometimes found on this website. We don't condemn ourselves of Tradcuмenism here, yet sedevecantists, sedeprivationists, CMRI-SSPX-SSPXMC-SSPV-FSSP goers all agree in some sort of unity.
Alright, off my soapbox. Let'er rip!

claudel · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2020, 01:43:47 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 25, 2020, 02:12:12 PM

“The religion of the God who became man has met the religion (for such it is) of man who makes himself God. And what happened? Was there a clash, a battle, a condemnation? There could have been, but there was none." (Pope Paul VI)

This statement affords yet another glimpse* into what is, to me at least, the essentially unfathomable mind of Paul VI. It is almost as if his perceptions and his conscience ran on parallel tracks separated by a twenty-foot-high brick wall: he seems to have understood fully the sacrilegious wickedness of the process that he and the council had put in train, yet aside from drawing a line (in Humanae vitae) short of adopting the entire agenda of the sɛҳuąƖ revolution, he either implemented or enabled every facet of the conciliar creation of a new religion. No wonder Francis canonized him!
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*Along with, for example, the famous "smoke of Satan" letter and parts of Humanae vitae.

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