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Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2019, 07:16:47 PM »
Indiana.

Yep; lived there for 3 years and was floored by the cheap (good quality) cost of rel estate.

Food and utilities also MUCH cheaper than Minnesota.

People were also much nicer.

Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2019, 07:24:33 PM »
I wonder if the next generation of Trads will be like the Baby Boomers, not quite D.I.N.K. or 2 child-level, but not "natural sized" either. Kind of like a repeat of the Baby Boomer generation born in the 40's thru early 60's.

Boomers rarely had more than 4 children, which (among many other reasons) is why they are so materially prosperous today. They also rarely homeschooled. While Boomers were of childbearing age, homeschooling was rare and fringe. So now that they're in their 60's, the copious amounts of time & money some of them donate to good causes (pro-Life, the Church, etc.) is, let's be honest, the least they can do to help the cause. You can't exactly go back in time and "do the right thing" (lay off the NFP or worse, and let God decide your family size)

Let's put it this way:
GOOD: Retired Baby Boomer with 3 kids (grown, of course) donating $5,000 a month to his Trad chapel, and/or donating a lump sum of $200,000.
BETTER: Gen X or Millennial using no NFP or birth control, wife stays home and homeschools, teaches kids the Faith, and family can only afford to donate $10 a week to the Church collection.

*Note, when I talk family sizes, I'm speaking generally here. I'm not talking about couples with age, fertility or health issues. Generally speaking, a healthy couple that marries before 30 can expect to have more than 4 children. Just look at natural family sizes anywhere in the world, before 1940 or so.
Totally agreed that people who have enriched themselves in the past, through not having had the children they should have had (least of all if they used contraception to this end!), should give some of these riches back.  It is ill-gotten gain which justice demands should be repaid in some way. 


I would like to see this restitution made, first of all, by means of charity, to help those who are struggling to live right with regard to family size --- it's too late for many to undo what they have done in the past (by having fewer or, God forbid, no children), but it's not too late to "do the right thing" and help out those who are making the sacrifices that they themselves didn't wish to make in their child-bearing years.  It could even be a form of penance!  I'd like to see this become a kind of formalized initiative, where struggling large families could apply for aid, and have it be funded by those who abused NFP or practiced contraception in the past --- a kind of "penitential relief fund" (which sounds like a weird mash-up of Catholic and Mormon terminology...).  Think of the possibilities.


Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2019, 07:25:07 PM »
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A high-quality car such as this, properly cared for, will last for years and retain much of its value.  
Jaguars are just luxury cars, they are mechanically high maintenance, really junk compared to a Toyota. They depreciate through the roof! All the opposite of what you think. Jaguars are for suckers who want to show off. The smart people who used their money wisely to become well off, drive a Lexus or to be low key a Toyota or Honda. Those are the cars that are high quality and depreciate the least. 

Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2019, 08:58:41 PM »
Jaguars are just luxury cars, they are mechanically high maintenance, really junk compared to a Toyota. They depreciate through the roof! All the opposite of what you think. Jaguars are for suckers who want to show off. The smart people who used their money wisely to become well off, drive a Lexus or to be low key a Toyota or Honda. Those are the cars that are high quality and depreciate the least.
I did not know that, I thought Jaguars were well-manufactured and of high quality, kind of like a poor man's Rolls-Royce.  I have heard many good things about the Lexus and have been considering getting a well-maintained used one through Carmax when that time comes.  Right now I foresee driving my "lemony" old Buick until the wheels fall off --- it has degenerated into basically a clean, superficially attractive beater car.  Just had to get new brakes on it last week after a road trip where we took back roads all the way home, lest the brakes go out on the interstate, praying it would hold together long enough to get home and get it back to our trusty mechanic.  Not good.

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Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2019, 09:21:23 PM »
Where in the United States, with good jobs in relative abundance, can you can buy a "starter home" for $80K?   Detached home, with a modest yard (front and back), at least two bedrooms, and not in the ghetto?

Our first home in south-central Texas was a detached single-family, 30 year old home, with a good sized backyard and frontyard, in a good and quiet neighborhood (but not a subdivision -- it was in the "old part" of town), tons of trees and little traffic, 1300 square feet, 4 bedrooms 2 baths, central air, even had some nice stuff like ceramic tile floor in the kitchen and bathrooms. A year after we sold it, they built the city's only, huge library about 6 blocks away.

We paid $82,900 for it, and sold it for the same amount (with a bunch of upgrades like new carpet, extra attic insulation) a few years later at the bottom of the housing market. No problem though, we also bought our current (larger) property at the bottom of the housing market :)

If it weren't for wanting to have land, needing more space for a big family, etc. we could have become VERY wealthy by staying there and socking away money. Even more money if we had sent our kids off to public schools. That's why when I criticize the Baby Boomer choices, I know exactly what I'm talking about.