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Offline SeanJohnson

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SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
« on: December 18, 2019, 04:44:37 PM »
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    • STAS Giveaway





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    The Society of Saint Pius X will celebrate Its 50th Anniversary in November, 2020. St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary of Dillwyn, Virginia and Our Lady, Co-Redemptorix Seminary of La Reja, Argentina wish to unite and visit Lourdes, France to thank Our Lady of Lourdes for the graces which have been bestowed on the SSPX and the continuation of the Catholic Priesthood.

    They hope to make this pilgrimage in the fall of 2020. To raise funds for this noble endeavor, St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary is hosting a 2020 Jaguar XE Giveaway, the winner of which will be determined at Ordinations in the summer of 2020. Tickets for a chance to win will be available in October 2019.







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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #1 on: December 18, 2019, 04:49:39 PM »
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    • The STAS Letter to Friends and Benefactors by Fr. Le Roux, which I received today, explains that:

    "The prize is a Jaguar, not to encourage a disordered concupiscence, but to make this fundraiser attractive to other people who otherwise perhaps would not contribute to the goal that we have in mind.

    Knowing that your personal resources are not unlimited, this "Giveaway" is primarily addressed to people of your acquaintance who are not in Tradition and who perhaps could, in this roundabout way, discover it..."

    I am wondering whether the practical result of this giveaway, however, is to encourage in people outside of Tradition the very disordered concupiscence which Fr. Le Roux desires not to encourage in those currently within Tradition.

    I am very much reminded about the SSPX responses to those who complained 6-7 years ago about all the modern technology and website marketing the neo-SSPX was using: 

    "Ah, but these websites and internet sites are not for OUR people, but for people outside Tradition."

    Was not the practical effect -then as now- to infect BOTH those inside and outside Tradition?

    Will those SSPXers selling tickets to those outside Tradition really maintain a contempt for the worldliness such exotic automobiles represent (or will they secretly hope they are the lucky winners)?
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #2 on: December 18, 2019, 04:53:18 PM »
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    • That will fit a natural, Catholic-sized family where the couple doesn't practice birth control.

    ...NOT!

    A luxury car? Seriously? Why not have 2 more reasonable cars in the raffle instead?

    Is a luxury sports car really what Traditional Catholics want? If I won that, the first thing I'd do is sell it so I could buy a practical car for my family. Even if I was buying a car for commuting, I'd pick a truck or something I could haul furniture and other stuff (by the side of the road, free stuff, etc.) In other words, Catholics should be seeking things practical, not luxury or cars that are only good for thrills or breaking the law (speed limit).
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #3 on: December 18, 2019, 04:54:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on December 18, 2019, 04:49:39 PM
    The STAS Letter to Friends and Benefactors by Fr. Le Roux, which I received today, explains that:

    "The prize is a Jaguar, not to encourage a disordered concupiscence, but to makee this fundraiser attractive to other people who otherwise perhaps would not contribute to the goal that we have in mind.

    Knowing that your personal resources are not unlimited, this "Giveaway" is primarily addressed to people of your acquaintance who ar enot in Tradition and who perhaps could, in this roundabout way, discover it..."

    He is SO in tune with the Conciliar way of thinking. "Meet them on their level". Don't talk up to them, inspire them with old and ancient things, you should sink down to their level and then try to "bring them up" to where you are.

    DOESN'T WORK.

    Or else I somehow missed the "New Springtime" that was supposed to have started in 1970...
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #4 on: December 18, 2019, 05:00:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on December 18, 2019, 04:49:39 PM
    The STAS Letter to Friends and Benefactors by Fr. Le Roux, which I received today, explains that:

    "The prize is a Jaguar, not to encourage a disordered concupiscence, but to make this fundraiser attractive to other people who otherwise perhaps would not contribute to the goal that we have in mind.

    Knowing that your personal resources are not unlimited, this "Giveaway" is primarily addressed to people of your acquaintance who are not in Tradition and who perhaps could, in this roundabout way, discover it..."

    I am wondering whether the practical result of this giveaway, however, is to encourage in people outside of Tradition the very disordered concupiscence which Fr. Le Roux desires not to encourage in those currently within Tradition.

    I am very much reminded about the SSPX responses to those who complained 6-7 years ago about all the modern technology and website marketing the neo-SSPX was using:

    "Ah, but these websites and internet sites are not for OUR people, but for people outside Tradition."

    Was not the practical effect -then as now- to infect BOTH those inside and outside Tradition?

    Will those SSPXers selling tickets to those outside Tradition really maintain a contempt for the worldliness such exotic automobiles represent (or will they secretly hope they are the lucky winners)?

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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #5 on: December 18, 2019, 05:11:45 PM »
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    • I may buy a ticket myself.


    This whole issue is morally neutral.  It's a fine car.  For all any of us know, an SSPX benefactor may own a Jaguar dealership and wish to donate a car for a tax write-off.   If someone wins it and needs a more "practical" vehicle, then let them sell it to someone who doesn't, and buy something more suited to their needs.  If I won it, I'd have a decision to make.  My car is getting kind of long in the tooth, and is in the shop constantly (lemon from day one).  It's just my son and me, and probably always will be.  A high-quality car such as this, properly cared for, will last for years and retain much of its value.  On the other hand, it could be sold --- I could use the money.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 06:07:05 PM »
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    • Ford Expedition would be nice...Extended length 😁
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 06:08:57 PM »
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    • The car has an MSRP of $39,900

    That's half the price of a good starter home. Not talking about down payment, I mean total cost.

    You could sell that car, buy a new car with the money, and with the other $15,000 cash left over...
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #8 on: December 18, 2019, 06:10:49 PM »
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    • "...not to encourage a disordered concupiscence...this "Giveaway" is primarily addressed to people of your acquaintance who are not in Tradition and who perhaps could, in this roundabout way, discover it..."


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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #9 on: December 18, 2019, 06:11:16 PM »
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    • Why not auction off a 15-passenger "Catholic Van" instead?

    (We need one of those! We are currently a 2-car family, i.e., our family can no longer fit in our 2004 Yukon, which only fits 2 adults and 7 kids. So both adults have to drive on any family trips.)

    P.S. Speaking of large vehicles, did you know that TRUNK SPACE/STORAGE is a huge issue for vehicles of this size? I never gave it a second thought until I had a "large family" myself. Having some trunk space for groceries, shopping bags, diaper bag, emergency supplies, luggage, Christmas gifts, etc. means you subtract at least 3 from the carrying capacity of the vehicle. So, long story short, you need a 15-passenger vehicle LONG before one would think.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #10 on: December 18, 2019, 06:12:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on December 18, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
    Why not auction off a 15-passenger "Catholic Van" instead?
    Matthew-
    Fr. LeRoux said he understands Trads are overburdened, so this is his way of attracting new money from outside Tradition.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #11 on: December 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on December 18, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
    Why not auction off a 15-passenger "Catholic Van" instead?

    My son referred to these types of vehicles as Trad Assault Vehicles ... TAVs.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #12 on: December 18, 2019, 06:21:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
    My son referred to these types of vehicles as Trad Assault Vehicles ... TAVs.

    And that they are, if you are still REALLY a trad.

    But since the neo-SSPX has been preaching it is no longer practical to have more than 5-6 children in the modern world, the NTAV (Neo-Trad Assault Vehicle) needs to be reduced a level to the old 7-person minivan.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #13 on: December 18, 2019, 06:22:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 18, 2019, 06:17:37 PM
    My son referred to these types of vehicles as Trad Assault Vehicles ... TAVs.
    Hahaha Trads have a love-hate relationship with them. I know my wife wants one that doesn't look so standard and commercial, and like every stereotypical Trad in Traddieland. I think there is one main brand that all the Trads get, but a few alternate brands/designs you can get for that vehicle size. I haven't looked into them much; I'd have to ask my wife for the details. All I know is that we're in the market now.
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    Re: SSPX Jaguar Giveaway
    « Reply #14 on: December 18, 2019, 06:22:21 PM »
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    • Well, Jaguars aren't what they used to be; they used to be very distinct cars but now look like any Japanese luxury vehicle.

    Kindof like the SSPX, which now looks like any other Motu group.
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