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Author Topic: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette  (Read 249810 times)

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Re: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2025, 11:19:37 AM »

This question is no longer merely in the realm of theological opinion. It has been practically settled and Canon Law forces Catholics to abide by 1917 Canon 188.4 in this matter.

Theological opinions do not overrule the currrent discipline of the Church found in Canon Law.

If we put the modernist popes into context with the 1958 coup d' etat of the Seat,  what I don't understand is how R&R trads assume that post 1958 Conclaves are valid and that the newChurch operating under the butchered 1983 Code of Canon Law is legitimate?

A visible Jєωιѕн actor sitting in the Seat along with his non Sacramental fake Holy Orders See, are imposters and do not represent the Catholic Church.  

Their Kayfabe "imagery" of the papal throne... is false and not a mark of the Church.

Our current situation is far more degenerate and illegitimate than Church conditions during Pope Honorius's time.



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2025, 03:36:10 PM »
Yes, but you claim that you can know the internal forum of Benedict XVI. Here is what you claimed above:

"Ratzinger made some production about a "hermeneutic of continuity", but that was little more than a cynical attempt to lure Trads back in to the Conciliar Church, and his hermeneutic was in fact of the Hegelian variety."

With the bolded comment you are claiming to know his internal motives. You cannot possibly know that.

So, stop doing to a legitimate Pope what you correctly say that the Church does not even claim to be able to do.


:facepalm:  Nice try taking that statement out of context, the point of which is that you can opine and speculate Bergoglio meant it but Ratzinger did not, whereas I speculate the opposite ... and that who's the arbiter of truth?  Your own personal speculation that Ratzinger was well meaning, despite his repeated pertinacious adherence to and promotion of heresy, the same heresies as Bergoglio, does not suffices to save Ratzinger from loss of membership in the Church while at the same time somehow causing the loss of membershp for Bergoglio.

You can speculate, I can speculate the opposite ... but either one of us can take our opinion and go to a coffee shop with it, where that and $10 will get us a large cup of fancy coffee.

MANIFEST HERESY is what causes loss of membership in the Church, not your personal judgment that someone does or does not mean the heresy.

If you hold that Bergoglio lost membership in the Church on account of heresy, then so did Ratzinger, and so did Wojtyla.  Period.

You have this pathetic and absurd narrative that Bergoglio is the problem in the Church, and as long as we went back with Ratzinger, then Church Crisis Over!  Are you nuts?


Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2025, 10:07:07 AM »
Sadly, you are spreading lies about a legitimate Pope, Benedict XVI, who was made to appear to be a heretic by his enemies.

What?  He did that all by himself and well before he traded in his V2-era suit-and-tie for a white cassock.

When I read your words above, it made me think of those who endlessly excuse and defend Trumpenstein's clearly problematic words and actions.  He is not being thwarted or made to look bad by those around him; he is doing the job he has been assigned and doing it really well while far too many remain utterly oblivious to the reality of the situation.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2025, 02:12:42 PM »
What?  He did that all by himself and well before he traded in his V2-era suit-and-tie for a white cassock.

When I read your words above, it made me think of those who endlessly excuse and defend Trumpenstein's clearly problematic words and actions.  He is not being thwarted or made to look bad by those around him; he is doing the job he has been assigned and doing it really well while far too many remain utterly oblivious to the reality of the situation.

Yeah, this guy's a deluded liar, like many of the idiot Bennyvacantists.  That's a great one LMAO ... that Ratzinger only APPEARED to be a heretic.

:laugh1: :laugh2: :laugh1: ... whatever they're smoking must be pretty potent.

So, these jokers claim that Bergoglio MEANT his heresies, by Ratz did not really mean them.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sedevacantism Proven Wrong by La Salette
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2025, 02:20:34 PM »
I am so sick of the filthy liars who infest the Trad movement, constantly lying and slandering, twisting truth and reality ... just to get the outcome they have a prior emotional attachment to, like that scuмbucket there who keeps lying about the case of Honorius to "prove" the opinon among the "5 Opinions" that was held by the fewest actual theologians, that a Pope can never lose his office, even if he's a heretic ... other than by death or resignation, the same lie that pseudo-Bishop Schneider was selling.  After citing the fact that theologians are divided regarding the Honorius case, but all say that he was not actually a heretic who adhered to monotheletism, and quoting Pope Leo II, who differentiated between the actual heretics and Honorius, who PERMITTED them to sully dogma.

But they completely ignore the actual facts and evidence ... and then proceed to reiterate their lies as if they had not seen what was just posted that refutes their errors.  They are not interested in truth, but only in promoting some agenda.

Recall that this Angelus moron was the same one who kept insisting over and over again that Bergoglio's election was invalid because Wojtyla's UDG docuмent said that the conclave should begin after the funeral rites of the Pope, and since Ratzinger didn't have a funeral, this invalidated the election of Bergoglio ... despite citations from the docuмent where it talks about resignation, and mention of how the Latin grammar has the verb in the subjunctive, clearly indicating that it's referring to "funeral rites IF ANY", i.e. in the case of death, and not to some absolute requirement that there be a funeral rite.  That would lead to the absurdity that after a resignation of the Pope, the See would then remain vacant until the Pope actually died.