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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2025, 05:14:19 PM »
Overall, I think that Mr. Sanborn is going to play up the checkered past of these priests in order to have a better chance of a verdict in his favor, since he knows it's his only chance.  I'm not sure that's perfectly honest either ... just that he migth feel he needs to do it in order to combat the dishonest techniques that would be used against him.  Once a woman alleges abuse ... proven or not proven ... 95% of the time it's game over for the husband/father.  It's like the old "Me Too" movement.  Then, to make it look good, before they file for divorce, they'll stage some incident and get a restraining order.  It's all part of the tactic to maximize their take in the divorce proceedings.

Offline FarmerWife

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Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2025, 07:26:02 PM »
I suspect that Sanborn is using it as additional ammunition for his lawsuit, just as women often make up allegations of abuse during divorce proceedings, etc.

No different from secular women, slandering their husbands and justifying the reason for the divorce. Women are way more ruthless in court than men because they are rewarded for it. And it might lead them getting full custody of their children. 



Absolutely absurd.  While Pudy denounces lack of leadership from men as the cause of most problems in marriages (I dispute that and my experience is that it's feminist attitudes from women ... that SSPX promote), so, according to Purdy, it's almost always the men who are at fault in not making sure that the "rules are followed", but then ironically in the second part of the article denounces men who think of wives "more as one to be told what to do rather than to mutually enhance each other".  Not only do I want to stick the old finger down the back of my throat with the "mutually enhance" lingo, but this gives ammunition to the feminsts who refuse to be "told what to do", as he characterizes that as an "abuse of the idea of the authority of the husband".

We had some issues early on in our marriage and thought that seeing a priest might help. This was in the NO at the time. The priest was trying to be neutral but I could see him kind of siding with me. I didn't see this benefitting because I think I knew on the inside that I could be doing things better instead of constantly thinking my husband was in the wrong. 

Obviously, this type of attitude of JUST thinking of a wife as a servant and an order-taker, taken to an extreme, can lead to tyrannnical husbands, and there are some of those out there, but after demanding that husbands show leadership and make sure rules are followed, and blaming their failure to do so on most of the trouble in familities, he completely pulls the rug out of under them and UNDERMINES their leadership, by declaring it an abuse of authority to expect the wife to do as she's told, i.e. to be obedient to her husband at the end of the day.  AT NO POINT does Purdy address the plague of women who think they cannot be told what to do.  I know "Traditional" wife, attending SSPX chapels, who constantly deride their husbands for "countermanding" them ... if they don't agree with something they've ordered, and actuall if they don't obey what they have commanded themselves.  In other words, not a few "Tradwives" expect obedience from their husbands rather than the other way around.  That's a massive plague in a society that's permeated with misandry and the derision of "toxic masculinity", etc. ... and IMO it's THE chief cause of problems in families, hands down.  Not only does Purdy not address it, but he throws gasoline onto the fire that's wrecking most families.

Just because you dress modestly, have 10 kids, SAHM/homemaker, "traditional", doesn't mean you're not going to be a harpy. Recently, I've noticed some trad Catholic women take on the finances because they have the financial background and their husbands don't. I think there's a difference between the husband being too busy and giving his wife the job of doing it vs the wife thinking she'll be better at it. I also notice secular women doing that and the husband seems beta for the most part. Personally, I think men do a fine job managing the finances and it gives him a sense of masculinity. 


Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2025, 08:04:35 PM »
This is the sort of thing that makes me walk into Mass at the very last minute, sit in back, and if there’s no priest hearing confessions during Mass and I might have mortal sins, I don’t go to Communion. I stay in the pew until most people are gone, pick up my stuff and make a bee line for the front door, bypassing the people having coffee and donuts. If anyone greets me, I acknowledge him briefly as I keep on walking, mumble something about running late, and burn rubber as I pull away from the curb. 
That’s called going to Mass to fulfill my obligation, but my heart isn’t in it. I have to wonder about the hearts of half or more of the laity and of the priest’s as well, distracted by the scandal, lies, gossip, detraction, and total selfishness. 

Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2025, 01:44:35 AM »
Overall, I think that Mr. Sanborn is going to play up the checkered past of these priests in order to have a better chance of a verdict in his favor, since he knows it's his only chance.  I'm not sure that's perfectly honest either ... just that he migth feel he needs to do it in order to combat the dishonest techniques that would be used against him.  Once a woman alleges abuse ... proven or not proven ... 95% of the time it's game over for the husband/father.  It's like the old "Me Too" movement.  Then, to make it look good, before they file for divorce, they'll stage some incident and get a restraining order.  It's all part of the tactic to maximize their take in the divorce proceedings.
This is why a lot of men are reluctant of getting married nowdays or are extremely picky. Ladies the men are like cats, slowly you gotta get their attention, they will test you and sus you out to make sure there are no red flags, but if you spook them, they are gone.

Re: Sanford SSPX scandal
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2025, 09:26:39 AM »
I know of two cases in the same SSPX chapel, where women divorced their husbands, completely unjustly ... and were given positions at SSPX chapels, teaching at the school, being a school secretary, and other responsibilities.  Both of the husbands compained to me, shaking their heads, that SSPX is the place to go for women who want to divorce their husbands.
To be fair, even though that may not have been the case here, if the first marriage were ipso facto invalid due to lack of canonical form, and if the situation could not be (or should not be) rectified by convalidation or sanatio in radice, the Catholic spouse would do well to get out of it. 

 A fortiori if the first marriage were invalid due to the other spouse having a previous valid marriage.