Sermon for the 1988 consecrations
"Loins de moi , loins de moi de m'eriger en Pape !" - the very words of the Archbishop - and so many today want him to be a sedevacantist !
"Est-ce possible ?" A question, you will note the Archbishop does not answer because he has not the authority.
And the words of Bishop Antonio Castro de Meyer, the Archbishop's co-consecrator, at the beginning of the same liturgy?
Which is to say... he didn't make himself the Pope either, did he ?
No, because he never believed himself pope. But nor did he believe John Paul II to be pope when he co-consecrated with the Archbishop.
True - but that was his opinion but not Lefebvre's clearly although some might say that canonically CdM's position was on a firmer footing than Lefebvre's.
Okay, so the Bishop, who was standing next to (and certainly within earshot of) the Archbishop, was heard by numerous witnesses during public entrance procession to the 1988 episcopal consecration, declaring a state of sedevacante.
What does this indicate with regards to the Archbishop's position toward sedevacantism?
Per Bishop Williamson, it was Archbishop Lefebvre that had to keep him grounded, and talked him back from sedevacantism.
Matthew was there in the seminary after the collapse of Campos when BW told us this.
He also said the simplistic legalism of CDM was what caused Campos to weaken and become suceptible to Rome after he died (i.e., They inherited his legalism and bought into the "if he is Pope, we must obey" mantra).
No, that is a twisted interpretation. Bp. Castro de Mayer was a sedevacatist. The campos clergy reunited with Rome because they either were either not sedevacatists or had changed their opinion.
If someone correctly understands the position of "sedevacante," he does not rejoin the den of heretics and usurpers.
Ambrose-
Bishop Williamson knew CDM personally, and met him many times.
You only know him from the internet.
Given that, I am more inclined to accept Bishop Williamson's take.
I have been a "traditionalist" for many years, before the internet was around, back in the days when had to rely on mailings, private letters (through something called the Post Office) Catholic newspapers and conversations. So, I do not rely on the internet, but it has sped up the exchange of information.
Opinions must be grounded in facts if they are to be taken seriously. What
facts can you present to support your ideas on Campos?
I have followed the events of Campos, and from all of my reading, Bp. Rifan and those who followed him sought a deal as they wanted to place themselves under the "Pope."
Once Catholics realize the truth, that submission to the Pope is necessary, and that Catholics have no good reason to resist the approved liturgies of the Church, the universal laws of the Church, canonizations, and authoritative teaching, that if they wish to be logical, they must make a choice: be a sedevacantist or place yourself under the man who you call Pope as his laws, authoritative teaching, approved liturgies, and canonizations cannot be evil or harmful.
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