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Quote from: Emerentiana

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So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

 :applause: :applause:

Perfectly said.  The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo.  They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist  position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis.  Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence.  Less funds will result.  
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

 What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?

It's strange that you have that image?  Are you familiar with CMRI?  I have witnessed:

A mix of big beautiful churches and smaller chapels.

60 mass centers in the United States alone, with new chapels opening constantly.

Churches and chapels run by CMRI or who work with CMRI all across the world, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, South America, Russia, Europe, etc.

2 seminaries, a major and a minor.

3 different orders of nuns, operating numerous grade schools and high schools.

Priests who sacrifice themselves for God by traveling all over to say Mass, hear confessions and visit the sick.

I could go on....

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Quote from: curioustrad

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: eddiearent

So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

 :applause: :applause:

Perfectly said.  The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo.  They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist  position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis.  Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence.  Less funds will result.  
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

 What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?

It's strange that you have that image?  Are you familiar with CMRI?  I have witnessed:

A mix of big beautiful churches and smaller chapels.

60 mass centers in the United States alone, with new chapels opening constantly.

Churches and chapels run by CMRI or who work with CMRI all across the world, Australia, Philippines, New Zealand, South America, Russia, Europe, etc.

2 seminaries, a major and a minor.

3 different orders of nuns, operating numerous grade schools and high schools.

Priests who sacrifice themselves for God by traveling all over to say Mass, hear confessions and visit the sick.

I could go on....

I wouldn't get me started on that topic - been there done that in every sense of the words. The externals are one thing - the interior is something else altogether. I would stick with the resistance !

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: eddiearent

So, Father denies that the notorious public heretic losses all jurisdiction. My question to Father is if you are TRUELY "una cuм," why don't you really become one with the local heretical "bishop" and princess "pope" and submit to him like Bishop Fellay wants to? Because you want you're cardboard pope and eat him too.

Father, do you really believe you are one with Francis'
*Doctrines
*Disciplines
*Liturgies
*Morals

How can you be one with Francis when you don't recognize his canon law, his bad shepherd saints in Roncalli and Wojtyla, etc.

The true answer is that WE ARE NOT ONE WITH UNA cuм these heretics. We are rationally of a different religion. At this point, we can pray for their conversion as we should. But standing in front of the altar of God and claiming that we are of the same faith as these apostates is the true lie coming from hell, Father.

 :applause: :applause:

Perfectly said.  The resistence priests speak more against the sedevacantists than about the Novus Ordo.  They must keep their people in line, and prevent them from coming to the logical conclusion that the sedevacantist  position is the only valid conclusion to tthe crisis.  Many are coming to that conclusion, and will go to the sede masses as well as the resistence.  Less funds will result.  
If the resistence has the same beliefs as the Neo SSPX, what are they accomplishing?

 What are the sedes accomplishing ? Garage chapels - cowboy priests - pseudo theologians ?