Author Topic: Novus Ordo SSPX???? (Read 11468 times)

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2012, 08:43:48 PM »

Who was the priest?

Quote from: CathMomof7

I left Mass today very confused and disturbed. My husband left with the same impression, only he is prone to hot-headedness, so he was a bit angry as well.

Our priest today publicly chastised those of us who visit internet forums and criticize the superiors of the Society. He gave a sermon on Obedience as taught by St. Ignatius. He even went so far as to say "if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it." He said, also, that he has been to these forums and read some of the comments criticizing Bishop Fellay and Fr. Rostand, and that those who are doing this are no true Catholics, but Catholics without charity.

Worse, he compared those critical of the Society to Protestants, inferring that this is what Martin Luther did. He said we are wrong to think we can "form our own opinions" about what is happening within the Society.

He also said, and I will try to say it like he did, "Does this mean we should come here if there are clown Masses? No. But we cannot criticize and examine every decision that the superiors make."

Here is my confusion: So it is okay to criticize the Novus Ordo Mass and the conciliar church, but it is not okay to do that within the Society?

It is okay to question the validity of Masses at Novus Ordo, but not so at the chapels within the Society?

It is okay to question and examine the actions and behaviors of Novus Ordo bishops and priests, but not those of the Society?

We are not to have blind obedience to Diocesan priests and bishops but we are in the Society?

When we tried to speak with our priest after Mass, he was cold and harsh.

Worse, we had a large family there that I have never seen before. I doubt they will ever come back. Who would blame them??

This is down right wrong in every way.

Is this what the Society is about---they are the Church? They know everything? Their superiors and priests are beyond reproach?

Here's what I know for certain: Priests are reading the forums and scouring Youtube for videos that people have posted. It wouldn't surprise me if they start asking people to leave because they are causing problems. I also know personally that some priests are confronting people and asking them to choose sides. This is EVIL!!!

We are not far from leaving this chapel. Today was "strike one."

Do they even CARE what they are doing to the faithful???!!!!

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:06:15 PM »

Oh my...

And we have a priest here that is wanting to "show us the society's 40th anniversary video," putting all kinds of SSPX literature in the back of Church, and such....

One thing I know from talking to people that deal with the decision making process here.

There is absolutely no way we're joining the society. We may have priests from the society coming here for a little while (and I hope to God, not for long, especially after hearing this, because THIS kind of rhetoric would NEVER be tolerated) until we find a permanent priest to come here, and I really pray we do find one, and the SOONER THE BETTER!

Sigismund · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:24:57 PM »

Quote from: CathMomof7

I left Mass today very confused and disturbed. My husband left with the same impression, only he is prone to hot-headedness, so he was a bit angry as well.

Our priest today publicly chastised those of us who visit internet forums and criticize the superiors of the Society. He gave a sermon on Obedience as taught by St. Ignatius. He even went so far as to say "if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it." He said, also, that he has been to these forums and read some of the comments criticizing Bishop Fellay and Fr. Rostand, and that those who are doing this are no true Catholics, but Catholics without charity.

Worse, he compared those critical of the Society to Protestants, inferring that this is what Martin Luther did. He said we are wrong to think we can "form our own opinions" about what is happening within the Society.

This is not Catholicism. It is Stalinism. A priest without jurisdiction can command you to do anything. And criticizing the SSPX only makes you a Protestant if the SSPX has no decided to formalize the arrogance that I have always thought was just below the surface within it and formally declare that it IS the Church.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2012, 10:27:04 PM »

To add to what I said, doesn't that priest know that if Archbishop LeFebvre had obeyed his superior, the SSPX wouldn't even exist? This priest does not realize how illogical his argument is.

CathMomof7 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2012, 11:50:58 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

I think this is just another example of the SSPX gone wrong. It's "Opus Fellay" at work again, it's become cultish. That priest needs to study what the Church teaches on obedience - and while he's at it, study the quotes of his founder, Archbishop LeFebvre - before he gives garbage sermons like that.

This was my initial reaction. Cult-like.

Frightening.

The devil is having his day for sure.