Who was the priest?
I left Mass today very confused and disturbed. My husband left with the same impression, only he is prone to hot-headedness, so he was a bit angry as well.
Our priest today publicly chastised those of us who visit internet forums and criticize the superiors of the Society. He gave a sermon on Obedience as taught by St. Ignatius. He even went so far as to say "if you superiors tell you black is white then you must believe it." He said, also, that he has been to these forums and read some of the comments criticizing Bishop Fellay and Fr. Rostand, and that those who are doing this are no true Catholics, but Catholics without charity.
Worse, he compared those critical of the Society to Protestants, inferring that this is what Martin Luther did. He said we are wrong to think we can "form our own opinions" about what is happening within the Society.
He also said, and I will try to say it like he did, "Does this mean we should come here if there are clown Masses? No. But we cannot criticize and examine every decision that the superiors make."
Here is my confusion: So it is okay to criticize the Novus Ordo Mass and the conciliar church, but it is not okay to do that within the Society?
It is okay to question the validity of Masses at Novus Ordo, but not so at the chapels within the Society?
It is okay to question and examine the actions and behaviors of Novus Ordo bishops and priests, but not those of the Society?
We are not to have blind obedience to Diocesan priests and bishops but we are in the Society?
When we tried to speak with our priest after Mass, he was cold and harsh.
Worse, we had a large family there that I have never seen before. I doubt they will ever come back. Who would blame them??
This is down right wrong in every way.
Is this what the Society is about---they are the Church? They know everything? Their superiors and priests are beyond reproach?
Here's what I know for certain: Priests are reading the forums and scouring Youtube for videos that people have posted. It wouldn't surprise me if they start asking people to leave because they are causing problems. I also know personally that some priests are confronting people and asking them to choose sides. This is EVIL!!!
We are not far from leaving this chapel. Today was "strike one."
Do they even CARE what they are doing to the faithful???!!!!
We are not to have blind obedience to Diocesan priests and bishops
but we are in the Society?
The diocesan priests and bishops have jurisdiction, and the Society
priests and bishops have no jurisdiction, and obedience is only due to
those with jurisdiction.
And therefore, we are NOT to practice blind obedience
priests and bishops, who (by the way!) have jurisdiction -- but we
ARE to practice blind obedience
to Society priests and bishops
who (incidentally!) have no jurisdiction? Since when has it become a Catholic doctrine
that we are NOT ALLOWED TO THINK?
Wait........... I know the answer to that question. Ever since the Errors of Russia
have permeated into the thinking of our priests, like Paul VI said with the "smoke
of satan;" ever since the Vatican-Moscow Agreement; ever since John XXIII hung
the Keys of Peter on the key rack on October 11th, 1962; ever since the
abandonment of the Oath Against Modernism in 1967; ever since the Pope
refused to reveal the Third Secret of Fatima to the world in 1960; ever since
they changed the consecration formula for the bishops in 1968; ever since they
unquietly set aside the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass and replaced it with a
banal, on-the-spot invention of a Freemason and 6 Protestant ministers; ever
since they collected all the vast assortment of traditional vestments in St. Peter's
Basilica in Rome and JUNKED THEM, some to the "highest bidder" to help pay for
pederasty lawsuits; ever since that fateful day when first black smoke, then white
smoke, then black smoke again, then white smoke again, then black smoke
again, then white smoke again, came from the chimney of the Sistine Chapel
Fireplace in 1958; ever since they abandoned the traditional teaching on the
Mass, Sacraments, and EENS in favor of ecumenism, religious liberty and false
collegiality before, during and after the abominable Vat.II; ever since they made
it perfectly clear that Sister Lucia of the Immaculate Conception would be
silenced, and inaccessible except for low-life criminals like Carlos Evaristo; ever
since priests in local parishes started to make old ladies cry by telling them under
the seal of the Confessional that their "sins" are not sins at all, and that they are
"wasting the priests time;" ever since pursuing any investigation of miracles by
such saints as St. Philomena and Padre Pio became impossible, but outlandish
claims of "miracles" attributed to the likes of JPII and Paul VI are poured over
with unlimited expenditure of time, trouble and effort; ever since priests who only
desired to practice the Faith as our ancestors started to be abused, maligned,
ostracized, expelled, fired, imprisoned, tortured, killed and worse; ever since
teever since they abandoned the use of the Devil's Advocate in the process of
canonization of the saints; ever since the "Patriotic Church of China" is given the
"Red (Chinese!) Carpet Treatment" while the underground, traditional Catholic
priests and bishops of China are abused, maligned, ostracized, expelled, fired,
imprisoned, tortured, killed and worse; ...
It all adds up. The SSPX is under the curse of Fatima, and Diabolical Disorientation
is taking hold with a firm grip.
There is no escape from this. Bishop Fellay will not be capable of reforming. His
deed is done, and his soul has become corrupted. Only by a miraculous
conversion could he return. Why would this happen?
And before the whimpering NeelyAnn scampers up to make her irrational
accusations, there is an escape from this, and only one. Without that escape,
there is no escape, as I said. Maybe NeelyAnn should go ask Thorn what escape
there is. Thorn knows everything...................... NOT.
And yet, for this miraculous conversion we must pray. But meanwhile, we cannot
consent to any so-called No-Strings accord with NewRome. There is no such
thing as a "no-strings accord."
It is pure myth, fantasy, propaganda, falsehood and subversion tactics.
Errors of Russia.