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Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2015, 11:34:22 AM »

The SSPX has been a blessing from God. It is the reason why the Latin Mass is growing in many dioceses. I thank the SSPX for the Sacraments, excellent sermons and Catholic education. I loved the library and bookstore full of awesome books. The only problem was the laity was two faced and stuck up at our local chapel.

Benzel · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2015, 11:52:49 AM »

Nishant says:

"The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"

1,000,000? Maybe 10,000. Can you prove the million?

Ladislaus · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2015, 12:12:16 PM »

Quote from: Nishant

schismatic-heretical, Catholic doctrine denying, BOD-NFP attacking, dogmatic Dimondite heretics and schismatics

You know where you can put this, Nishant.

BoD and NFP have been the ruination of Catholic faith and morals respectively in these times.

Pilar · « **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2015, 04:30:41 PM »

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The SSPX produced rotten fruits, weak Priests, weak Bishops and weak people

This is nothing less than the height of stupidity. The SSPX's efforts have led to hundreds of very solid traditional priests, given excellent seminary formation to thousands - including some members of this forum - and directly supports close to a million faithful and several traditional Catholic families worldwide, not to mention the millions who have indirectly benefited from its efforts, such as Indult Catholics and others who now have access to the true Mass. Its fruits arguably exceed that of all other traditional groups combined. The schismatic-heretical, Catholic doctrine denying, BOD-NFP attacking, dogmatic Dimondite heretics and schismatics have led to practically zero priests or seminarians, have misled many well-meaning Catholics to a fruitless empty rigorism - with a spirit permeated by the very same diabolical bitter zeal you exemplify - and have caused some to stay home alone and practically be on their way to losing the Faith or leaving the Church altogether. The very tone of your remark is rotten.

If it weren't for the SSPX back in the day, my soul and the souls of my family would be lost - no doubt about it. Because of the Society, at least I have a fighting chance.

BJ5, you are absolutely right and no one can argue with the fact that God chose Archbishop Lefebvre and his Society to maintain the Catholic Mass and priesthood. For decades the SSPX has successfully done this alone save for a few friendly independent priests who worked with the Society or at least did not work against tradition.

I have to assume that those few nitwits here who have no gratitude for the Society either do not possess the Faith or have not been around long enough to know the history of the Church since Vatican II, and therefore should not be posting and showing off their ignorance.

Whatever happens in the future, a great debt is owed to the Archbishop and to all those good priests who have sacrificed their comfort, health, sanity and lives for the salvation of souls. God bless them all and give to them strong Faith and final perseverance.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2015, 06:06:59 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: Nishant
schismatic-heretical, Catholic doctrine denying, BOD-NFP attacking, dogmatic Dimondite heretics and schismatics

You know where you can put this, Nishant.

BoD and NFP have been the ruination of Catholic faith and morals respectively in these times.

It seems to me that so-called biological evolution ought to fit in there somewhere.

Hear this new Judith Sharpe interview (duration 1:11:30) with Hugh Owen of the Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation.

Abortion would be socially unthinkable today, were it not for widespread belief in the nonsense of evolution, regardless of BoD. But the development NFP can be seen as a CONSEQUENCE of this same evolutionary false belief.

A Catholic girl today can be just as likely to have an abortion as her atheist classmates not because of BoD or NFP but because of evolutionary mythology being taught in place of the truth.

The foundation of Marxism and materialism is evolutioinsm not communism. All of the founding fathers of communism -- Lenin - Stalin - Trotsky -- lost their faith because of evolutionism. It was the principle error of Russia that spread through the world.

Lenin was a baptized orthodox Christian who lost his faith because of evolution, and authorized the murder of millions of his countrymen because they obstructed the progress of evolutionary theory. Stalin was educated in a monastic seminary but read Darwin and spread his lies to his fellow seminarians, all of whom then left the Church.

If the people could be made to accept evolution they would be able to accept everything else. Hitler made sure all of his leaders were steeped in evolutionary thought. None of these people were led astray by BoD or NFP.

Feminism is a direct consequence of evolutionary thinking which was leading to unfaith in Scripture and so on.

BoD and NFP can be seen as an also-ran or consequence of the worldwide loss of faith that is ignited with the mythology of evolution which replaced Catholic theology.

Whatever dark cloud of sinister malediction hangs over the SSPX can be largely disbursed if the true doctrine of creation would be openly taught in all the SSPX seminaries, schools and parishes. The boogeyman isn't BoD or NFP. Those will take care of themselves when the real enemy is squarely dealt with.

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