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Offline Benzel

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« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2015, 07:19:50 AM »
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    Nishant says:

    "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"

    1,000,000? Maybe 10,000. Can you prove the million?


    If you dispute this figure or any of the holy, humble but intellectual stuff put out by "Nishant" then you've got to be suffering from DIABOLICAL BITTER ZEAL man!.  An American SSPX priest once put the number of faithful in the US at "about 20,000". A French priest said that in France there were "about 80,000". Let's leave "Nishant" to provide the rest of the numbers.


    France: 80,000.
    USA: 20,000
    South America: about 5,000.
    Mexico: about 3,000.

    Until now: about 108,000.

    With these parcial data, we can see this is impossible: "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"


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    « Reply #31 on: December 07, 2015, 08:19:10 AM »
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    Nishant says:

    "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"

    1,000,000? Maybe 10,000. Can you prove the million?


    If you dispute this figure or any of the holy, humble but intellectual stuff put out by "Nishant" then you've got to be suffering from DIABOLICAL BITTER ZEAL man!.  An American SSPX priest once put the number of faithful in the US at "about 20,000". A French priest said that in France there were "about 80,000". Let's leave "Nishant" to provide the rest of the numbers.


    France: 80,000.
    USA: 20,000
    South America: about 5,000.
    Mexico: about 3,000.

    Until now: about 108,000.

    With these parcial data, we can see this is impossible: "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"



    Asia 1000, Africa 1000
    =110,000 ( i.e. if the French and US numbers are not inflated) so far.....


    THANK YOU, DEAR AJNC.
    THEN, THE SSPX DIRECTLY SUPPORTS CLOSE TO 100,000 FAITHFUL.


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    « Reply #32 on: December 07, 2015, 08:35:17 AM »
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  • I think those numbers for the U.S. and France are very inflated.  World-wide I would estimate it is closer to 50,000 to 60,000 total SSPX followers.  

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    « Reply #33 on: December 07, 2015, 08:51:29 AM »
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  • So...

    The question, today, December 7th 2015, is:  Who will be the first to post the announcement?  If there even is an announcement, it should be made well before Americans awake.

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    « Reply #34 on: December 07, 2015, 09:22:29 AM »
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    So...

    The question, today, December 7th 2015, is:  Who will be the first to post the announcement?  If there even is an announcement, it should be made well before Americans awake.


    "Nishant"? :really-mad2:

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    Will establishment as a personal prelature give the Society bishops ordinary jurisdiction?

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    Interesting question. I believe it will. As others have said, we'll likely find out the details one way or the other in a matter of days.]


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    « Reply #35 on: December 07, 2015, 09:41:36 AM »
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  • For whatever it's worth, according to their own website the SSPX Stats for 2012 say 25,000 in the USA and 600,000 total.
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    « Reply #36 on: December 07, 2015, 10:06:43 AM »
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    This is amusing. For the benefit of posters who may not know, AJNC has publicly accused me of being Fr. Laisney. Now, I respect Fr. Laisney, so I can't say I'm offended; on the contrary, he's a good and faithful priest, so I'm honored. But the truth, of course, is that Nishant is my real name, (Matthew and a few others know my second name), I'm not Fr. Laisney, and a moment's thought, or a simple PM to Matthew or even to me would have confirmed that for "AJNC". But since he insists on talking past me, let me tell him, I am not a priest, though I seriously discerned a vocation to the priesthood under the guidance of a traditional priest about 2 years ago. I - like many others here who have clearly stated as much - owe a lot the SSPX and I'm sure would, if we were so called, be filled with measureless gratitude to serve or have one of our sons serve God in the traditional Catholic priesthood in an SSPX seminary.

    I don't have the statistics at hand, though I vaguely recall seeing it cited somewhere as an estimated 1.2 million traditional Catholics who depend on the Society's worldwide apostolate. That's probably an inflated number; I don't have the source at hand and will have to recheck it; I apologize if I was mistaken on that. I am not, however, any of those other things you accused me of being, but have never claimed to be and so don't have to answer that.


    THANK YOU, DEAR NISHANT.

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    « Reply #37 on: December 07, 2015, 10:07:17 AM »
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    But the truth, of course, is that Nishant is my real name...


    Since we have time before announcement time and there's really nothing more to hash over until tomorrow, I was wondering, Nishant, if you would shed more light on that name.  I am curious as I've never heard such a name before.  Would you tell us the origin of that name?  Is it a derivative of something?  I am unable to identify a saint with the name, so I am truly interested in knowing more.  Thanks in advance.


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    « Reply #38 on: December 07, 2015, 10:10:32 AM »
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    For whatever it's worth, according to their own website the SSPX Stats for 2012 say 25,000 in the USA and 600,000 total.


    Thank you dear Stubborn.
    It seems that the SSPX lies.

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    « Reply #39 on: December 07, 2015, 11:23:17 AM »
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    This is amusing. For the benefit of posters who may not know, AJNC has publicly accused me of being Fr. Laisney. Now, I respect Fr. Laisney, so I can't say I'm offended; on the contrary, he's a good and faithful priest, so I'm honored. But the truth, of course, is that Nishant is my real name, (Matthew and a few others know my second name), I'm not Fr. Laisney, and a moment's thought, or a simple PM to Matthew or even to me would have confirmed that for "AJNC". But since he insists on talking past me, let me tell him, I am not a priest, though I seriously discerned a vocation to the priesthood under the guidance of a traditional priest about 2 years ago. I - like many others here who have clearly stated as much - owe a lot the SSPX and I'm sure would, if we were so called, be filled with measureless gratitude to serve or have one of our sons serve God in the traditional Catholic priesthood in an SSPX seminary.

    I don't have the statistics at hand, though I vaguely recall seeing it cited somewhere as an estimated 1.2 million traditional Catholics who depend on the Society's worldwide apostolate. That's probably an inflated number; I don't have the source at hand and will have to recheck it; I apologize if I was mistaken on that. I am not, however, any of those other things you accused me of being, but have never claimed to be and so don't have to answer that.


    It would be insane of me to insist that you are someone you insist that you are not!. So I apologize unreservedly for claiming that you are Fr Laisney. The only explanation I have is that I have heard Fr Laisney speak about an accord with Newrome and I concluded that you and him are one and the same person. Once again, I'm sorry!
     

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    « Reply #40 on: December 07, 2015, 11:42:08 AM »
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    Nishant says:

    "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"

    1,000,000? Maybe 10,000. Can you prove the million?


    If you dispute this figure or any of the holy, humble but intellectual stuff put out by "Nishant" then you've got to be suffering from DIABOLICAL BITTER ZEAL man!.  An American SSPX priest once put the number of faithful in the US at "about 20,000". A French priest said that in France there were "about 80,000". Let's leave "Nishant" to provide the rest of the numbers.


    France: 80,000.
    USA: 20,000
    South America: about 5,000.
    Mexico: about 3,000.

    Until now: about 108,000.

    With these parcial data, we can see this is impossible: "The SSPX... directly supports close to a million faithful"



    Asia 1000, Africa 1000
    =110,000 ( i.e. if the French and US numbers are not inflated) so far.....


    THANK YOU, DEAR AJNC.
    THEN, THE SSPX DIRECTLY SUPPORTS CLOSE TO 100,000 FAITHFUL.


    "There are nearly 251,000 Amish people in America and Canada, according to Ohio State University researchers. That's more than double the estimated population in 1989 of about 100,000. Researchers estimate the population will double again to half a million within about 21 years."

    Kind of helps to put things into perspective, eh?


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    « Reply #41 on: December 07, 2015, 11:43:46 AM »
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  • I would set my alarm for early tomorrow morning to hear the first news out of the Vatican but I am betting this is just another Pfeiffer/Hewko inspired bust so I'll stick with my beauty sleep.

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    « Reply #42 on: December 07, 2015, 11:58:02 AM »
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    I would set my alarm for early tomorrow morning to hear the first news out of the Vatican but I am betting this is just another Pfeiffer/Hewko inspired bust so I'll stick with my beauty sleep.


    Just recall the words of Fr. Wegner back on Oct. 31 when he said, "Don't be surprised to wake up one morning and Pope Francis has accepted us!"  We'll see.

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    « Reply #43 on: December 07, 2015, 12:09:01 PM »
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    I would set my alarm for early tomorrow morning to hear the first news out of the Vatican but I am betting this is just another Pfeiffer/Hewko inspired bust so I'll stick with my beauty sleep.


    Just recall the words of Fr. Wegner back on Oct. 31 when he said, "Don't be surprised to wake up one morning and Pope Francis has accepted us!"  We'll see.


    Fr. Wegner spends too much time on the Boston, KY website.

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    « Reply #44 on: December 07, 2015, 01:04:38 PM »
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    For whatever it's worth, according to their own website the SSPX Stats for 2012 say 25,000 in the USA and 600,000 total.


    Yet according to a + Fellay interview with Salt and Light TV back on June 15 2009 their worldwide attendance varied between 250,000 and 750,000 per Sunday - half a million difference ! (What's a half million - or so - between friends ?)

     

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