Author Topic: Is Father Ringrose dumping the R & R crowd? (Read 480974 times)

Stubborn · « **Reply #1015 on:** May 10, 2018, 01:40:25 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on May 10, 2018, 12:59:16 PM

Rejecting heresies might be a good start to that end.

I try. At least I reject all of your heresies.

Stubborn · « **Reply #1016 on:** May 10, 2018, 02:09:59 PM »

Quote from: Cantarella on May 10, 2018, 01:07:30 PM

Stubborn,

Bellarmine is referring here to an hypothetical morally evil Pope giving morally evil commands to the faithful. This is a completely different case from a Pope teaching doctrinal error, evidently failing to the infallibility promised to his Papal Office.

Also, Bellarmine is debating here the errors of Gallicanism and Conciliarism, not the case of a heretical Pope. Specifically this quote is taken from Bellarmine’s reply to the following argument:

The resistance he is referring to is that of kings and Councils, not individual Catholics, and this in opposition to the errors of the Gallicans, who considered the authority of a king or a General Council superior to that of the Roman Pontiff.

Again, I am absolutely content to let Our Lord take care of the pope in His own time as He sees fit. A heretic in the Chair does not effect my salvation any more than a saintly pope in the Chair would effect my salvation. I have no need or reason to join the divisiveness of sedeism.

Because it has no effect on my salvation, I really do not care what St. Robert's opinions are, I do care that the sedes always reference a Catholic saint and Doctor of the Church, as well as popes and fathers in their efforts to justify their sedeism. Certainly, doing that is something very displeasing to God, and the fact that of their own free will they've chosen to blind themselves to the truth does not change the fact that God is very displeased with those who do such things.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #1017 on:** May 10, 2018, 06:08:38 PM »

Quote from: Cantarella on May 10, 2018, 12:48:26 PM

No, I do not believe so.

This is a very good quote to reflect on. Hopefully, all of us can reach this level of perfection:

Indeed. And as Fr. Bergamo says in the Humility of The Heart: "...But in paradise there is no Saint who was not humble".

Stubborn · « **Reply #1018 on:** May 11, 2018, 01:53:02 PM »

Quote from: An even Seven on May 11, 2018, 12:54:53 PM

Yes it would mean that were it true. This is the infamous Fr. Wathen "dogma"; "Once a Catholic, Always a Catholic".
This is directly contrary to the Dogma that heretics are not in the Church.

You have a sede understanding of dogma, which is to say you don't have a clue what you're even talking about.

When an apostate Catholic dies, they are judged as a Catholic and will suffer worse than the non-Catholic because more was expected of that person.

You likely never read in the books that you learned your sede faith from, that the floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops, but that is how it is. It does not say the floor of hell is paved with imposter bishops, or non-bishops or fake bishops or whatever it is you imagine.

Stubborn · « **Reply #1019 on:** May 11, 2018, 02:11:11 PM »

Quote from: An even Seven on May 11, 2018, 02:06:20 PM

You truly are nowhere near the Catholic Church. Your brainwashing has made you incoherent.

Yes, pretty much everything Catholic is incoherent to the sede mind because pretty much everything Catholic is antagonistic to the sede errors - by design.

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