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Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
« on: May 18, 2018, 09:45:28 AM »
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    Moderator Note:
    This seems to be an INTERNAL MATTER among Pfeifferites. A domestic dispute, if you will.
    Note that the author (individual, group, etc.) hasn't cast off the Pfeifferite errors/cult -- not in the least.
    It seems to be more of a political maneuver to strongarm their favorite priest, Fr. Pfeiffer, who they still ultimately believe in.
    They are having a relatively minor disagreement with him -- that's all.

    Carry on...
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    This was posted on Cor-Marie (I seldom go there.  Why I did now I don't know).  I think it important to post here.  

    I have requested Admin to give a summary of the current position of Our Lady of the Southern Cross [OLSC] community/mission. We have chosen to take this position because of certain events that have taken place in 2018 that have shaken our community’s foundation.

    Introduction
    1. Dear Reader, this essay is written in simple layman’s language where the Baltimore, or Penny Catechism, taught him everything about his Catholic faith. It is the pewsitter who is the victim of all the distortions, errors, heresies emanating from Vatican II Council and propagated by modernist Popes, Cardinals, Bishops and Priests upon whom we depend for instruction and guidance. The Catechism has given us the weapon to test the authenticity or falsehood of what we are taught by those placed in authority over us. As Archbishop Lefebvre has said:
    "In the Church there is no law or jurisdiction which can impose on a Christian a diminution of his faith. All the faithful can and should resist whatever interferes with their faith, supported by the catechism of their childhood. If they are faced with an order putting their faith in danger of corruption, there is an overriding duty to disobey." (Open Letter to Confused Catholics : Chapter 18 : para 9)

    2. Parishes
    We were told when attending SSPX Masses and receiving the Sacraments that -

    We all know the way it worked out in practice. We treated these Bishops and priests as if they had jurisdictional authority which can only be given by the Pope even though we knew it was supplied. The Parishes in effect were illegal according to Church law but the congregation treated it all as if it were a true parish.

    3. Bear in Mind
    True parishes already exist under the authority of a Bishop answerable to the diocesan Archbishop answerable to the Pope. Therefore, the people who attend a de facto parish already belong to a true parish. That includes us all.

    Archbishop Lefebvre always said that he did not want priests to leave their parishes to join his SSPX. His whole teaching was directed at providing priests in parishes with the legal ammunition of Divine Law that the unchanging teaching of the Church was that every priest would not disobey his superior if he refused to say the Novus Ordo Mass; that no Bishop or Pope had the authority to forbid the true Mass (Papal Bull Pope St. Pius V); that in fact, such Bishop or Pope would be the disobedient one if he demanded his priests say the Novus Ordo Mass which Mass was promulgated in l969 by Pope Paul VI. In fact it was, and remains a Protestant Mass where the bloodless Sacrifice of Calvary is omitted. It does not give grace.


    * By law. By legal right
    ** Existing or holding a specified position in fact, but not necessarily by legal right.


    By extension that means that no parishioner was to be denied access to the true Mass of all ages. To circumvent that problem the Pope introduced the extraordinary form of the Roman rite where the true Mass of all ages was given an inferior position. Modernist Rome ‘permitted’ the true Mass to be celebrated to those who clung to it. Not only lowering its sole prime position it was now only permitted but limited to groups of Catholics who were placed in the position of having to specifically ask for it. In this way the phasing out of the true Mass and phasing in of the NO was set in motion.


    4. To cut a long story short -
    The Holy See immediately declared that Archbishop Lefebvre and the other bishops who had participated in the ceremony had incurred automatic excommunication under Catholic canon law. This, after the latter had exhausted every avenue of appeal to beg the Pope to save the priesthood from utter destruction as the only means left to save the priesthood AND the Mass of all ages. The true Mass and the Priest could not be divided without incurring the anger of God. Just as Our Lord said when a couple married that they now were one, ‘let no man put them asunder’. Any law made that put them asunder would incur the wrath of God. To tear the Priest away from his Mass is the devil’s key to destroying the Church.


    5. Putting it all together
    The way laid out by Archbishop Lefebvre to save the Priesthood/Mass/Church was put into effect while he lived but ended when he died. Personal ambition of one Bishop consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre slowly poisoned the fulfilment of the only way to save the Priesthood/Mass/Church. It spread its venom slowly but surely throughout the whole SSPX where de facto parishes were founded in imitation of true existing legal parishes. Candidates flocked to the Society to be ordained as new priests instead ofpriests in existing true parishes refusing to obey their superiors; refusing to be divorced from their Mass or the true parishioners they served. Large numbers of priests are being formed, even now, in SSPX monasteries greedily seeking funds to build or complete. The remaining three Bishops have each gone his own way - two remain with the Society personally choosing to follow Bishop Fellay. [bullcrap about +Williamson censored]

    At the present time the resistance movement [Pfeifferite propaganda "false resistance", "true resistance" censored, on the grounds that it's false as well as propaganda]


    8. Doctrinal Issues
    Without a doubt OLMC priests have promoted true doctrine alongside Frs. Cordoza, Raphael, Ruiz et al. Other priests left OLMC and aligned with Bishop Williamson. These latter priests were amongst those who left the original membership of OLMC when, and from where the resistance movement was launched.

    In other words the resistance movement was, and remains at war with itself. Where previously all were colleagues together they now work against each other.

    OLMC has continued to promote true Catholic doctrine. At the same time Father Pfeiffer had established his ‘Mission centres’. Subtly changing the wording ‘Mission Centres’ to ‘acting parishes/parish’ the lay communities, whether knowingly or unknowingly were now members of an ‘acting Parish Priest’ with Father Pfeiffer over them as operates in a true Parish. It only mattered to most Catholics that they receive the Sacraments and attend true Masses celebrated by a true priest. This re-interpretation of, and re-labelling of Mission Centres became part of the strategy to take control of the true resistance movement in Australia.

    Stating that he had established an OLMC parish in Australia in 2013 needs a closer look because


    Zeroing in on Our Lady of the Southern Cross (OLSC) - a lay Rosary praying priestless prayer-community from its inception - Fr. Pfeiffer was approached and asked if he would come as a visiting priest and provide members with the Sacraments from time to time when he could fit it into his busy schedule. It was never established by Fr. Pfeiffer as one of his Missions.

    Then one day, in April 2018, out of the blue an ultimatum was delivered by Father Pfeiffer to OLSC Melbourne members that no other visiting priest would be tolerated who visited them. Father declared himself to be their parish priest. If he was to remain a visiting priest he would say no more Masses for them. He added that unless the visiting priest accepted to come under his authority he would not say any more Masses for them.


    He confirmed this when he cancelled a scheduled Mass for the following Sunday.


    To deviate for a moment
    Father gave the reason for issuing this ultimatum as - he had worked hard to establish mission centres across the world and that faction of the Resistance Movement under Bishop Williamson would move in and take over - virtually throwing Father Pfeiffer out who had/has no Bishop; who had/has no authority over him; who had/has no Superior to obey. These priests were all colleagues when the Resistance movement was launched. Now they were at enmity with one another. This led to much confusion amongst the laity, many of whom returned to the (now) conciliar oriented SSPX with its Indult Massand accepting that the new mass as legitimately promulgated OR the laity grouped around whichever priest gave them the Sacraments uncaring about doctrinal purity or sedevacantism.

    The whole Resistance set-up has become a kind of ‘Catholic Protestantism’ . Whether doctrinally pure or not, priests were fighting for ‘parishioners’ to belong to their particular de facto parish. What they had in common was that they were all de facto make-believe ‘parishes’ under the headship of one Bishop or as in Father Pfeiffer’s case - under him and him alone.


    Taking Stock of the new situation
    OLSC members had to take a step back and test Father’s words against its Mission Statement which clearly spoke of visiting priests (plural), their hope being that eventually Our Lady would send, not necessarily the same priest, but visiting priests as often as possible so long as they were not loose federation priests under Bishop Williamson and who recognised Pope Francis as Vicar of Christ. The ultimatum left no option for other true resistance priests to visit who wanted to remain independent of OLMC.


    OLSC lay prayer community rejected the ultimatum put to them by Father Pfeiffer.


    9. Choosing to remain faithful to its Mission Statement. members were not prepared to refuse the Sacraments if or when offered to them by a true resistance non-sedevacantist priest saying the traditional Mass.

    Having just learned, after a year, what Father’s agenda was, OLSC realised that any priest who demanded to be de facto pastor over a de facto ‘parish’; who had no Superior; who was under no authority thus answerable to no-one above him - that such a set-up was not Catholic.


    10. Parish Priest’s first commandment to his parishioners:
    OLSC rejected Father as Parish Priest exercising his singular authority over them where, in answer to a question asked - What is required of us as a parish under your headship? He replied that to miss Mass on one of his visits they would be under the obligation to attend as if it was a Sunday. Translated, this means that they would be committing mortal sin if they did not attend his Mass. He added that as a member of his parish praying together was fine, but if not a member of his parish they would be protestant.

    OLSC members meet regularly to pray fifteen decades of the Rosary. In their daily lives they say the Rosary, offer Spiritual Communions, say the Stations of the Cross, make sacrifices, refuse to attend the only indult Mass available - yet they would be protestant unless they became members of Father's parish.


    11. Our Current position
    We are a community of lay Catholics who continue to pray as stated above. We meet regularly to pray as a community. We pray that Our Lady sends us true Catholic non-sedevacantist and doctrinally pure priests to provide us with Mass and the Sacraments when possible. If it is Our Lord’s wish that we remain priestless may He grant us the graces we need to perfect our lives according to the example of the Saints in heaven.

    We already belong to a true parish and accept the authority of our local Bishop whom we disobey because the only alterative is to attend either the Extraordinary Rite or the Novus Ordo Missae. Therefore, we remain as we are, keeping watch until Rome converts back to the true Catholic Faith

    Father Pfeiffer teaches true doctrine. In this case there is much more to be considered. Having gone through this experience before under Fathers Chazal /Picot in the then ‘Resistance Movement’, when the same proposition was put to us to become a parish - the proposition was rejected for the same reasons as were put to us by Father Pfeiffer. [calumny censored]

    In conclusion
    Each layman has to make his/her own decision about what course to follow, but one thing has become crystal clear and common to all of us - it is that we are already true parishioners of true parishes. (See para 2). Having experienced the traps of single-mindedly applying the dictum that doctrinal purity will keep us on the safe and narrow path to heaven, we have discovered when Father left us, that the times we live in dictate how we have to respond in a given situation. Obstacles arise that seem unsurmountable at the time but by the grace of God when one door closes another opens.


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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #1 on: May 18, 2018, 09:48:56 AM »
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  • Such an excellent, true depiction of fr. Pfeiffer and his demigodness.  God bless you all in Australia for standing true to the Faith and not being railroaded. 
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     Fr. Pfeiffer does some things exactly like the SSPX, including calling mass centers (chapels) parishes, and themselves pastors, which is completely against canon law.
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     Fr. Pfeiffer and fr. Hewko also teach those under them the same arrogance b. Fellay teaches those under him.  It is sickening to see back patting and congratulations for mopping the floor, or teaching them that they are superior to others because fr. Pfeiffer slaps a cassock on a young man after being there 4 months.
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     I have only correction to your letter:
     Fr. Pfeiffer DOES NOT teach true Catholicism.  I have verified several things he has said with other clerics, not identifying fr. Pfeiffer as the owner of the words.  Two clerics called him a heretic.  One called him a cult leader.  Another said he is "off his rocker".
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     I can assure you, the closer you get to him, in person, spending a week or more at OLMC without being seen the sights, it becomes very clear fr. Pfeiffer's mantra is "the end justifies the means".
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     One final thing, I think, you should have mentioned, is his newly found close relationship to so many laicised and pervert priests.  To me, that is enough to tell him, "don't come back".
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     As for not attending a priests' mass if it is available (fr. Pfeiffer included), I was recently told it depends upon your past experience with the priest.  For me, having heard his heretical teachings first hand was enough for me.  For some the straw may be the perverts he  supports, for others his relationship with questionable a.b. Moran, etc.  Whatever your reason, appeal to your conscience.  If the reason you don't attend his masses is that you don't like him, that's not a valid reason.
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     May God have mercy on his soul and may God shut the place down before it destroys more souls.


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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #2 on: May 18, 2018, 10:26:17 AM »
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  • What a weak document.

    It's dripping with Pfeifferite propaganda, even as they criticize and reject him! Something like Stockholm Syndrome. Pathetic.

    May they complete the healing process and exit the cult completely -- getting the propaganda out of their minds, as well as physically leaving.

    I had to censor several parts of it, because it contained lies, errors, propaganda, and calumnies against good priests and bishops. And the worst part is, I probably didn't "get it all".
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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #3 on: May 18, 2018, 10:54:20 AM »
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  • If anything, it shows some in australia are really messed up and a self righteous crowd.  The bigger story shows another controlling lay group making demands for a democratic church.  Regardless who the priest is.  :facepalm:

    Didn't Fr. Chazal have the same problem with them?

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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #4 on: May 18, 2018, 11:14:30 AM »
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  • If anything, it shows some in australia are really messed up and a self righteous crowd.  The bigger story shows another controlling lay group making demands for a democratic church.  Regardless who the priest is.  :facepalm:

    Didn't Fr. Chazal have the same problem with them?

    Based on the above letter, I wouldn't be surprised. Let's face it, they don't sound like they've fully embraced the truth, have their heads on straight, or have their eyes fully open -- at least not yet.

    It sounds more like a political move to strong-arm their favorite priest, Fr. Pfeiffer.

    It's an "internal matter" among Pfeifferites.

    That whole letter was contaminated with the "Pfeifferite cult errors" through-and-through.
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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #5 on: May 18, 2018, 11:32:34 AM »
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  • What a weak document.

    It's dripping with Pfeifferite propaganda, even as they criticize and reject him! Something like Stockholm Syndrome. Pathetic.

    May they complete the healing process and exit the cult completely -- getting the propaganda out of their minds, as well as physically leaving.

    I had to censor several parts of it, because it contained lies, errors, propaganda, and calumnies against good priests and bishops. And the worst part is, I probably didn't "get it all".
    The first step is the biggest step.
    They should be commended for that.

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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #6 on: May 18, 2018, 01:33:26 PM »
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  • Another fine example of a cult demanding total loyalty and obedience, with the cult followers willing to drink the Kool Aid. But like most cults, they don't last and are losing many supporters in the US. In the UK, I hear, that they rely on a sedevacantist priest from Spain for Mass like they did with the Belgian sedevacantist priest, Fr Jacquemin who finally saw through them. God have mercy on them all for their blindness.

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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #7 on: May 18, 2018, 02:20:03 PM »
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  • What a weak document.

    It's dripping with Pfeifferite propaganda, even as they criticize and reject him! Something like Stockholm Syndrome. Pathetic.

    May they complete the healing process and exit the cult completely -- getting the propaganda out of their minds, as well as physically leaving.

    I had to censor several parts of it, because it contained lies, errors, propaganda, and calumnies against good priests and bishops. And the worst part is, I probably didn't "get it all".

    Anything coming from the Pfeiffer cult needs to be cleansed...

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #8 on: May 18, 2018, 09:22:09 PM »
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  • Are we having fun yet?    :facepalm:

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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #9 on: May 19, 2018, 01:06:01 AM »
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  • Another fine example of a cult demanding total loyalty and obedience, with the cult followers willing to drink the Kool Aid. But like most cults, they don't last and are losing many supporters in the US. In the UK, I hear, that they rely on a sedevacantist priest from Spain for Mass like they did with the Belgian sedevacantist priest, Fr Jacquemin who finally saw through them. God have mercy on them all for their blindness.
    Was he any different when in India? Were not his close lay associates, whether in Mumbai or Goa or Chennai or Kandighai or wherever, his cultists?

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    Re: Resistance Australia dumps fr. Pfeiffer
    « Reply #10 on: May 21, 2018, 09:54:42 PM »
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  • Another fine example of a cult demanding total loyalty and obedience, with the cult followers willing to drink the Kool Aid. But like most cults, they don't last and are losing many supporters in the US. In the UK, I hear, that they rely on a sedevacantist priest from Spain for Mass like they did with the Belgian sedevacantist priest, Fr Jacquemin who finally saw through them. God have mercy on them all for their blindness.
    Losing supporters is inevitable.
    OLMC is not canonically erected.
    The have a pervert.
    They associated with perverts and allow laicised priests to say mass.
    They waste benefactor money all the time.
    I am not sure the priests are blind, though.  I think it more a demigodness.


     

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