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Author Topic: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics  (Read 3673 times)

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Offline Meg

Re: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2018, 10:42:15 AM »

I'm a little surprised that the FSSP have been given permission to celebrate according to the old books, for Holy Week. 

Offline PG

Re: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2018, 12:48:28 PM »
This is very interesting news to me.  This has been a top prayer of mine for well over a year now.  However, this prayer was directed at +Williamson and the resistance.  If you do not remember, +Williamson used the old holy week about 2-3 of years ago.  And, I thought that was great idea.  I do not know if he still is using it.  I hope he is.  I can say that I am a bit concerned that the fssp is using this.  Because, the other half of the coin for me represents aside from validity, a denial of legitimacy of the hierarchy outside of Francis.  Being that they are ecclesia dei, that kind of negates what I see as a solution.  It would be great if the fssp could function as a catalyst for good regarding this, but I have my doubts.  This belongs to +Williamson and the resistance as far as I am concerned.  He was the first whom I saw perform this combination(1954 holy week within the context of a 1962 liturgical norm).  And, if you haven't picked up on it yet, trads prefer to time travel rather than mix and match.  Do you remember the critical saying "the liturgy of econe"?  I saw that liturgy as an asset.  Either way, I believe this is the right thing for tradition to do to bridge the gap between vacantists and plenists.  


Offline Meg

Re: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2018, 12:52:02 PM »
This is very interesting news to me.  This has been a top prayer of mine for well over a year now.  However, this prayer was directed at +Williamson and the resistance.  If you do not remember, +Williamson used the old holy week about 2-3 of years ago.  And, I thought that was great idea.  I do not know if he still is using it.  I hope he is.  I can say that I am a bit concerned that the fssp is using this.  Because, the other half of the coin for me represents aside from validity, a denial of legitimacy of the hierarchy outside of Francis.  Being that they are ecclesia dei, that kind of negates what I see as a solution.  It would be great if the fssp could function as a catalyst for good regarding this, but I have my doubts.  This belongs to +Williamson and the resistance as far as I am concerned.  He was the first whom I saw perform this combination(1954 holy week within the context of a 1962 liturgical norm).  And, if you haven't picked up on it yet, trads prefer to time travel rather than mix and match.  Do you remember the critical saying "the liturgy of econe"?  I saw that liturgy as an asset.  Either way, I believe this is the right thing for tradition to do to bridge the gap between vacantists and plenists.  

Your goal is to bring +W into the sedeplenist camp? 

Offline PG

Re: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2018, 01:01:43 PM »
Meg - I don't have to bring him anywhere.  +Williamson is a sedeplenist.  The sspx is sedeplenist.  Ecclesia dei is sedeplenist.  Sedeplenist means they believe the conciliar popes are true popes.  That is all.  It does not mean being under the NO heiarchy.  I am against that as I stated.  The reason I have been praying for +Williamson for this is because one: I believe this is the liturgy we need, two: he got the ball rolling, and three: I support him most.  The goods of the church belong to traditional catholics(the resistance).  I don't pray for the good of vacantists or ecclesia dei.  I pray for the good of the resistance, so we can ascend to a position of strength, and reform from there.  

Offline Meg

Re: FSSP Granted an Indult to offer the 1958 Holy Week Rubrics
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2018, 01:10:16 PM »
Meg - I don't have to bring him anywhere.  +Williamson is a sedeplenist.  The sspx is sedeplenist.  Ecclesia dei is sedeplenist.  Sedeplenist means they believe the conciliar popes are true popes.  That is all.  It does not mean being under the NO heiarchy.  I am against that as I stated.  The reason I have been praying for +Williamson for this is because one: I believe this is the liturgy we need, two: he got the ball rolling, and three: I support him most.  The goods of the church belong to traditional catholics(the resistance).  I don't pray for the good of vacantists or ecclesia dei.  I pray for the good of the resistance, so we can ascend to a position of strength, and reform from there.  

Nonsense.