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Re: Man arrested for email
« Reply #450 on: October 10, 2025, 07:54:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: Boru on October 10, 2025, 07:31:58 AM
    Kerry Moran was "punished with deprivation of office...dismissal from the clerical state" due to being found guilty of committing "an offence against the sixth commandment to the Decalogue with a minor".

    In Canon law, a minor is defined as a person who has not yet reached the age of eighteen.

    The Sixth Commandment is 'adultery' which is defined as a sɛҳuąƖ act.  sɛҳuąƖ act with a minor = abuse.

    Whether our children are 6 or 16, do we really want this character around our children?

    Can it really be any clearer?

    Or are you suggesting that that it's all ok if the 'minor' turns out to be 17? 
    Yeah, well, that's where we disagree. Us "trads", unlike the modern world, are not supposed to view a, say, 17 year old as a helpless "child" who can do no wrong. A 17 year old is well past the age of reason and can engage in any number of voluntary mortal sins.

    If Fr(?) Moran is in fact guilty of any sin against the sixth or ninth commandments with another person, of course he should not be offering masses or being alone with children. But when just about the only "evidence" thus far is a vague statement from a Conciliar "Bishop", or purported emails from +Vigano published by anti-Resistance Hewkonians, that is not sufficient enough to label him a "child abuser"
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #451 on: October 10, 2025, 07:57:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Boru on October 10, 2025, 07:31:58 AM
    Kerry Moran was "punished with deprivation of office...dismissal from the clerical state" due to being found guilty of committing "an offence against the sixth commandment to the Decalogue with a minor".

    In Canon law, a minor is defined as a person who has not yet reached the age of eighteen.

    The Sixth Commandment is 'adultery' which is defined as a sɛҳuąƖ act.  sɛҳuąƖ act with a minor = abuse.

    Whether our children are 6 or 16, do we really want this character around our children?

    Can it really be any clearer?

    Or are you suggesting that that it's all ok if the 'minor' turns out to be 17? 
    Have you contacted +Vigano, or Martinique Church officials, or Martinique State officials in order to obtain additional information regarding Moran? Has anyone done this?
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #452 on: October 10, 2025, 08:05:55 AM »
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    • Quote from: Avis on October 10, 2025, 07:35:02 AM
    This is farcical. Abp Vigano is very long experienced diplomat knowing to choose his words very carefully and cautiously. And we are expected to believe that he is writing emails at 10.32 pm (Italian time) to complete strangers making the above vague points and then doesnt even sign it.  More fool anyone who believes that....

    If Boru does appear today, what persona will he/she adopt? Their masculine persona calling people mate or the Irish housewife?
    I have appeared - as Boru the Warrior for Truth - and before you deem things farcical you really need to read all the information and educate yourself first. Abp. Vigano was clearly responding to Brendan Kavanagh's inquiry - so, no, not a complete stranger - and I don't know of anyone sending their email messages with a signature.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #453 on: October 10, 2025, 09:31:37 AM »
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    • Quote from: Angelus on October 09, 2025, 04:46:23 PM
    Again, you are trusting untrustworthy Vatican operatives. You say you are a member of the Resistance. You are either very confused or you are lying.
    It took an enemy of tradition, Christina Niles, to expose much of these sorry affairs in the SSPX, and a few years ago it was an atheistic Swedish docuмentary that did the dirty work. We might not like these hack journalists who have an axe to grind, but who is dealing with this within traditionalist circles? 

    It's perfectly reasonable to be someone who attends resistance masses yet wants assurances about their priests. 

    Has Archbishop Vigano has cut off contacts with the Resistance ? He did send a long message of support to be read out at Bishop Williamson's funeral. 
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #454 on: October 10, 2025, 11:59:36 AM »
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    • Quote from: Boru on October 10, 2025, 08:05:55 AM
    I have appeared - as Boru the Warrior for Truth - and before you deem things farcical you really need to read all the information and educate yourself first. Abp. Vigano was clearly responding to Brendan Kavanagh's inquiry - so, no, not a complete stranger - and I don't know of anyone sending their email messages with a signature.
    You clearly dont understand. An Archbishop would not reply to any random person sending an email. If he replied he would exercise caution as people can be two faced and have different personas like yourself. I see you are in your masculine matey persona on another thread. It must be very tiring!

    As for an email signature, clearly you have never emailed a priest or bishop. I dont know of any who do not sign of with some kind of siganture. 

    You have to try a but to bring some REAL evidence.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #455 on: October 10, 2025, 01:19:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 10, 2025, 07:57:23 AM
    Have you contacted +Vigano, or Martinique Church officials, or Martinique State officials in order to obtain additional information regarding Moran? Has anyone done this?
    Publishing the following details about Kerry Michael Moran’s dismissal from the clerical state and conviction for acts contrary to the sixth commandment with a minor, such as those confirmed by the Chancellerie of Martinique and reported by the Belfast Telegraph, would be a serious crime if it were not true. The fact that these statements have been officially issued strongly supports their credibility:


    From: <chancellerie@eglisemartinique.fr>
    Sent: Monday 10 March 2025 31:12
    To: <*****@*****>
    Subject: Re: Enquiry about Kerry Moran in Martinique
    I would like to inform you that Kerry Michael Moran, incardinated and or-
    dained deacon in the diocese of Fort-de-France (Martinique) on 26/08/2017,
    was dismissed from the clerical state on 6/02/2024 following a criminal trial
    opened on 19/07/22 at the request of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the
    Faith. Kerry Moran was found guilty of acts contrary to the sixth command-
    ment with a minor (c. 1398 §1, 1° CIC; art. , 1° SST), a conviction confirmed
    by letter from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith on April 24 2024.
    May God have mercy on him and on us all.
    Abbé Benoit Paul-Joseph
    Chancellier intérimaire
    Archevêché
    5-7 rue du Révérend Père Pinchon
    97200 Fort-de-France
    0596 63 70 70

    (Martinique) on August 26 2017, was dismissed from the clerical state on June 6, 2024
    following a criminal trial opened on July 19, 2022 at the request of the Diacestry for the
    Doctrine of Faith.
    “[Named] was found guilty of acts contrary to the sixth commandment (adultery) with
    a minor, a conviction confirmed by a letter from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of Faith
    on April 24, 2024.”
    The concerns relayed by the Archdiocese of Cardiff are believed to relate to the ex-
    cleric’s conduct with minors.
    It is understood the individual was not a priest at the time, and was instead a volunteer
    within the diocese, holding an unofficial role. Belfast Telegraph. (2024, June 6). Fears over defrocked priest sparked Derry bishop’s warning to Catholics about illicit group holding Mass. Belfast Telegraph.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #456 on: October 10, 2025, 03:38:48 PM »
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    • EU.

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    "...So a Garda background check would operate for Martinique? B+ Ballini garda vets everyone in his company as I was told by  resistance attendees whose sons had to be vetted to travel to Italy for some gathering.

    Piano man has mocked a thread on cath info on this whole escapade but he fails to include a link to the thread which would actually show that Resistance trads want to know about Fr FAke and make sure that it is dealt with and ..."


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    Is Bishop Ballini stuck in Italy? Does Guarda cover all of EU?

    NO bishops were behind this vetting situation... which almost seems like illegal . I mean, what crime did + Ballini commit? Evidence must be gaining credibility for the authorities to take this so seriously.

    Fr Moran, he actually went to the police with DrK private emails... confusing for me.

    Did anyone call the diocese in Martinique?
     
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #457 on: October 10, 2025, 09:15:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: maxkolbe on October 10, 2025, 01:19:17 PM
    Publishing the following details about Kerry Michael Moran’s dismissal from the clerical state and conviction for acts contrary to the sixth commandment with a minor, such as those confirmed by the Chancellerie of Martinique and reported by the Belfast Telegraph, would be a serious crime if it were not true. The fact that these statements have been officially issued strongly supports their credibility:

    The text of a private email, shared with and published by the Hewkonian "The Recusant" and the secular Belfast Telegraph is considered "officially issued"? Is there an actual official, public statement by the Church officials in Martinique that I am missing? Has anyone contacted Martinique Church officials to confirm what is contained in the text of the private email? Has anyone attempted to contact Martinique State officials regarding the apparent lack of criminal charges against Moran there?
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #458 on: October 10, 2025, 11:33:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 10, 2025, 09:15:50 PM
    The text of a private email, shared with and published by the Hewkonian "The Recusant" and the secular Belfast Telegraph is considered "officially issued"? Is there an actual official, public statement by the Church officials in Martinique that I am missing? Has anyone contacted Martinique Church officials to confirm what is contained in the text of the private email? Has anyone attempted to contact Martinique State officials regarding the apparent lack of criminal charges against Moran there?

    If you would like to verify this independently, feel free to reach out to:

    Official Contact List – Diocese of Fort-de-France & French Bishops’ Conference

    Diocese of Fort-de-France (Martinique):
       •   Chancellerie: chancellerie@eglisemartinique.fr
       •   Secrétaire de l’Évêque: secretaire.eveque@eglisemartinique.fr
       •   Signalement / Abuse Reporting Office: signalement@eglisemartinique.fr

    Conférence des Évêques de France (Victims’ Office):
       •   Parole de Victime: paroledevictime@cef.fr
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #459 on: October 11, 2025, 05:39:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: maxkolbe on October 10, 2025, 11:33:37 PM
    If you would like to verify this independently
    Do you consider the text of a private email shared (presumably by Kavanagh) with, and published by, the Hewkonian "The Recusant" and the secular Belfast Telegraph to be "officially issued" by the Chancellerie of Martinique? Have you verified what was in the text of the email? Has anyone you know verified what was in the text of the email?
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #460 on: October 11, 2025, 06:21:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 11, 2025, 05:39:54 AM
    Do you consider the text of a private email shared (presumably by Kavanagh) with, and published by, the Hewkonian "The Recusant" and the secular Belfast Telegraph to be "officially issued" by the Chancellerie of Martinique? Have you verified what was in the text of the email? Has anyone you know verified what was in the text of the email?
    If a national newspaper such as The Telegraph published details of a priest being defrocked for child abuse and this was a falsehood, the priest could sue for libel. The article would be removed with an apology. Yet it hasn’t been removed. Newspapers have legal teams for this reason. Not interested in this Recusant, virtually no one reads it. 
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #461 on: October 11, 2025, 12:33:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 11, 2025, 05:39:54 AM
    Do you consider the text of a private email shared (presumably by Kavanagh) with, and published by, the Hewkonian "The Recusant" and the secular Belfast Telegraph to be "officially issued" by the Chancellerie of Martinique? Have you verified what was in the text of the email? Has anyone you know verified what was in the text of the email?

    This was not simply a “private email” shared informally, it was an official communication from the diocesan chancery, issued under the authority of the Church in Martinique. Publishing or issuing such information falsely would carry serious legal and canonical consequences, which underscores the credibility and weight of the communication.
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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #462 on: October 11, 2025, 09:15:42 PM »
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    • Screen shot of 3 Lepanto Institute browser results about Fr. Moran, even an SSPX archive tag, but they don't seem to open... maybe scrubbed? One was posted just 3 days ago, but link says page not found. Strange, no?
    "...in summer of 2024, Fr. M was filmed saying mass in a small chapel..."

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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #463 on: October 12, 2025, 09:00:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: maxkolbe on October 11, 2025, 12:33:24 PM
    This was not simply a “private email” shared informally, it was an official communication from the diocesan chancery, issued under the authority of the Church in Martinique. Publishing or issuing such information falsely would carry serious legal and canonical consequences, which underscores the credibility and weight of the communication.
    Right, the purported email (that we, AFAIK, have only seen the plain text of), is said to have been sent from the Martinique Chancery. Since you and all other concerned trads that I have communicated with have refused to answer my questions, I will have to assume:

    A) There has been no public statement given from Martinique Church authorities regarding Moran

    B) You, and any others that I have posed the question to, have not even attempted to confirm the authenticity of the information contained in the text of the email by contacting Martinique Church authorities

    C) You, and any others that I have posed the question to, do not even know anyone who has attempted to confirm the authenticity of the information contained in the text of the email by contacting Martinique Church authorities

    D) You and the others I have asked have not, and do not even know anyone who has, attempted to contact Martinique State officials regarding the apparent lack of criminal charges against Moran there

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    Re: Man arrested for email
    « Reply #464 on: October 12, 2025, 11:14:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: WorldsAway on October 12, 2025, 09:00:09 AM
    Right, the purported email (that we, AFAIK, have only seen the plain text of), is said to have been sent from the Martinique Chancery. Since you and all other concerned trads that I have communicated with have refused to answer my questions, I will have to assume:

    A) There has been no public statement given from Martinique Church authorities regarding Moran

    B) You, and any others that I have posed the question to, have not even attempted to confirm the authenticity of the information contained in the text of the email by contacting Martinique Church authorities

    C) You, and any others that I have posed the question to, do not even know anyone who has attempted to confirm the authenticity of the information contained in the text of the email by contacting Martinique Church authorities

    D) You and the others I have asked have not, and do not even know anyone who has, attempted to contact Martinique State officials regarding the apparent lack of criminal charges against Moran there

    I have reached out to every one of the emails I provided you, I gave them to you so that you can reach out as well.
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