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Offline Matthew

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Awesome resource - someone has done it!
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2012, 11:33:08 PM »
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  • Thanks for posting it -- the more people read this, the better!
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #16 on: October 31, 2012, 12:52:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Thanks for posting it -- the more people read this, the better!



    I have a question, Matthew:

    If you would like to have this docuмent identifiable and you would like to have as
    many readers see that it's available, etc., why are you not identifying it by name?

    The 'super sticky below the header' says "Also: A Must-Read for All Members!

    Not only that, this thread is titled, "Awesome resource - someone has done it!"
    And if you look at the title of the address linked to the "A Must-Read..." you see it
    is the same: "awesome-resource-someone-has-done-it" - and anyone would say:

    What's up? Must read what? All Members must read the forum rules? Someone has
    done what? What kind of resource? Why is it 'awesome'?  Why is it a 'resource'?

    All of these questions should be answered in a well-chosen title and a well-labeled
    'super sticky.'  And since they're not so answered, it should come as no surprise
    that lots of readers are not seeing the link or using it.  It's not a headline.  It's not
    a good ad.  It does not 'sell copy.'



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    Offline Iuvenalis

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #17 on: October 31, 2012, 01:24:28 AM »
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  • Agreed, red font, larger, and clearer explanation via title.

    Offline Matthew

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #18 on: October 31, 2012, 01:29:52 AM »
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  • The thread isn't doing THAT bad -- 1580 views in 1.5 days.

    I improved the appearance/wording in the header.

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    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #19 on: October 31, 2012, 02:11:24 AM »
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  • how  many pages should I have total?  

    197  
    May God bless you and keep you


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #20 on: October 31, 2012, 08:15:46 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    The thread isn't doing THAT bad -- 1580 views in 1.5 days.

    I improved the appearance/wording in the header.




    Thanks!  And 74 downloads in two days isn't bad either, I suppose.




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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    « Reply #21 on: October 31, 2012, 10:29:04 AM »
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  • Fuzzy grammar and less-than-stellar reasoning notwithstanding, it is helpful
    that this 'resource' touches on some facts of recent history, i.e., things you
    won't hear at your local SSPX Mass center - during a sermon or even in the
    vestibule for that matter!  (But perhaps in the parking lot!)  – For example,
    regarding the so-called unity touted by +Fellay, loudly, as he stood on the
    Grave of the Founder where it is carved in stone, "TRADIDI QUOD ET ACCEPI"
    – "For I delivered unto you first of all, which I also received" (I Cor. xv. 3),
    what kind of 'unity' is it, in fact?  Is it not merely an appearance of unity?  
    But to a Modernist, appearances are everything, for 'reality is in the mind,' and
    therefore, following blindly where the false principle leads us like Fr. Laisney
    follows his superior-of-the-moment blindly (which see), we are led to believe
    that there is 'unity,' even if it only seems to be 'unity' because the leader-
    of-the-moment says so......................


    From 'page 10':

    Quote from: p. 10 of the 'resource'
    26. We should consider what the devil's strategy might be in the year 2012. It seems to me that the powers of darkness would be seeking to cause dissension and disunity and would be seeking to introduce error into the Society or the Society into error. It seems to me that if we acknowledge that the Conciliar Church is modern and liberal and infected with error then we would have to acknowledge that the enemy's purpose would appear to be furthered if the Society can be made part of that Conciliar Church.

    27. The idea that the Conciliar Church or Rome would or could take and keep the society "as we are" is a dream or a fairy tale (tragic fairy tale). If Rome does not convert to tradition then Rome continues its liberal modernist religion and traditional Catholicism is unacceptable to that Rome. I note that the possibility that a traditional Catholic may criticise Rome does not mean that traditional Catholicism is acceptable to Rome. It only means that criticism may be acceptable to Rome, noting that Martin Luther is "acceptable" and noting that other religions or even atheism is "acceptable" to Rome -8. If the Society cannot convert Rome when it is outside and not subject to Rome's bishops how possibly can the Society convert Rome after an "agreement" is signed and the Society is subject to modern Rome? The only "side" that should want an agreement is the side of the Conciliar Church, the side of liberalism. Rome's only purpose (and it has admitted it) in entering into any agreement is to convert the Society to the ways of the Conciliar Church.

    28. In the book "Archbishop Lefebvre and the Vatican" Father Laisney adds the following commentary after a copy of the Archbishop's declaration in 1974 (refer page 11):

    …When the Pope returns to the spirit of St. Paul, there will be no need of a "Protocol" nor even the lifting of any penalty. He will see that all these were but a persecution waged by the worshippers of "man making himself God," against the adorers of "God Who made Himself man."…


    __________________________________________
    8  In September 23, 2011, Pope Benedict praised Martin Luther and in October 2011, the Pope participated in a gathering at Assisi where not only were all sorts of religions gathered together, but also atheists who were able to express, not their faith of course, but their point of view regarding the faith.



    The author states that his purpose is not to draw conclusions or to judge the
    intentions of those whom he quotes.  However, it appears inescapable that this
    quote of Fr. Laisney compared to his more recent writings shows Fr. Laisney up
    for the image he makes of himself:  eager to scamper up to the service of
    whomever it currently happens to be who is leading him - IOW a most extreme
    exponent of false obedience.

    To carry this lesson one step further, how would one then expect Fr. Laisney
    (or for that matter, any of the other liberal clerics like him in the SSPX!) to act
    once a 'deal' is agreed upon and he (or they!) become subject to the local
    Ordinary, who will NO DOUBT issue most startling demands upon him (or them!)
    such that their 'obedience' requires that they mirror any of the other Novordien
    wackos currently afoot?  He (they!) are most eager to perform unthinking and
    even ideologically inconsistent acts under false obedience, so why would they
    not do any of the things that you see going on at your local Novordien
    parishes? – Things like liturgical dancers, Baptism by immersion, First-
    Holy-Communion-in-the-hand, standing during the Consecration,
    'concelebration,' or, perhaps even turning around at the moment before he starts
    Mass and asking the congregation to pray for the Acolyte present to serve him,
    because it's his anniversary today (as he physically pats with his right hand the
    visibly uneasy Acolyte on his right shoulder as a gesture of his 'pastoral care' like
    any good Freemason! would do!)?  

    Why not?  What would be holding him (them!) back?  After all, there has been
    a 'regularization,' and we must be 'obedient.'



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    Offline Matthew

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 06:37:17 PM »
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  • LAST CALL --

    I'm about to remove this thread from its prominent position on the header of the site, so if you haven't downloaded the PDF yet, please do!

    This thread isn't going anywhere, but it's going to "scroll off". I had this thread advertised in the actual header of the forum (near the top of every page) for months now.

    If you haven't downloaded it yet, you probably aren't going to :)
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    Offline nipr

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    « Reply #23 on: February 04, 2013, 07:37:08 PM »
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  • I for one wish you'd leave it there, Matthew.  The more the Society does the more people will want to know what's going on.  It's a slow start for the Resistance but we're getting more people interested all the time.  It's very easy to refer them to your website and there at the top is what they need to read without going through threads trying to piece everything together.  As you said, this thread will get buried.

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    « Reply #24 on: February 04, 2013, 07:50:27 PM »
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  • Well, if we need an "intro" thread we might want to pick something else.

    Seraphim started a thread with all kinds of docuмents -- that might be a better choice.

    His thread even included the PDF "Is this Operation ѕυιcιdє?"
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    Offline parentsfortruth

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #25 on: February 04, 2013, 07:55:54 PM »
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  • Just an FYI.

    If you print off this book take it to Kinkos/FedEx, and they will spiral bind it for you for 5 measly bucks! It's totally worth it. They put a vinyl cover on each side, clear on the front, and black on the back. It's so nice.

    $5? Really? DO IT! Don't let it get ruined. It's absolutely fantastic!



    Look at how neat that is! This is what I did with mine. I even printed out the footnotes and had it bound separately.

    DO THIS! It's cheap and simple!

    http://www.fedex.com/us/office/binding-finishing-laminating.html
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

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    Offline padrepio

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    Awesome resource - someone has done it!
    « Reply #26 on: February 05, 2013, 11:53:33 AM »
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  • We received a copy of the book at the 2012 Family Conference in Kentucky with the commitment to make more copies and pass them on.  The plan was to give a copy to each family at the conference; however, it didn't work out.  We took it to Staples and made 5 more copies and gave them to different families to read and pass on in our SSPX chapel.

    Everyone who attended the conference; make your copies and pass them around!
     :applause:

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    « Reply #27 on: February 07, 2013, 03:14:42 PM »
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  • I just finished the reading of the book which shows proof of AB Lefebvre's clarity of thought in a storm and strength in  the  Battle.
       Note the coments made by +Fellay in September, 1997 - 15 years ago.

       Thank you  for the presentation . . . would love to have a copy.

              Tantum Aude.