Author Topic: More re-education in the new SSPX (Read 5817 times)

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #30 on:** December 29, 2012, 10:31:42 PM »

I've seen the Society cite the '83 Code against the Conciliarists since they abide by it. But I've never seen them say that the '83 Code is a-ok.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #31 on:** December 30, 2012, 12:29:02 AM »

Both of these are still up on the site...

Question 8
Should we accept the 1983 Code of Canon Law?

http://www.sspx.org/sspx_faqs/q8_1983_code_of_canon_law.htm

Archbishop Lefebvre
on the New Code of Canon Law

http://www.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/ab_lefebvre_on_new_code_of_canon_law.htm

John Grace · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »

Machabees

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And we faithful, all of these years, did not know about it!!! SUCH A BETRAYAL…OF THE FAITH…AND OF MY TRUST!

Whilst a betrayal yes, I can't agree with you that faithful and priests didn't know. Even 'Oblationem' a Youtube user stated if only people had protested more. You can never claim people didn't know. The rosary crusades were distraction crusades.

I don't accept that folk didn't know. Whilst this new SSPX will return home to Rome, 2013 will see the resistance continue. Positive news of a new seminary proposed, funds being raised, new chapels being set up, new websites etc etc.

Machabees · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2012, 04:46:12 PM »

Quote from: John Grace

Machabees

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And we faithful, all of these years, did not know about it!!! SUCH A BETRAYAL…OF THE FAITH…AND OF MY TRUST!

Whilst a betrayal yes, I can't agree with you that faithful and priests didn't know. Even 'Oblationem' a Youtube user stated if only people had protested more. You can never claim people didn't know. The rosary crusades were distraction crusades.

I don't accept that folk didn't know. Whilst this new SSPX will return home to Rome, 2013 will see the resistance continue. Positive news of a new seminary proposed, funds being raised, new chapels being set up, new websites etc etc.

John Grace, you are not reading the context correctly, as with, you are jumping to long conclusions on what I have written.

In reading some of your other posts, I understand your basis of practical knowledge is in the Irish (Ireland) district which you, rightly so, speak fond of. So in your district, are you saying that YOU knew all along, since the year 2000, of these SECRETE happenings of Bishop Fellay and his inner circle -that wasn't revealed to the world until April 14, 2012 in the Bishop's letters? Of course there are some particulars that were sensed in seeing a "tip" of something. However, as I said in my posts, it is in the Bishop's letters on how I personally found out what is really going on under the "tip", as so with many other people and SSPX priests themselves; ever since, I have been very active to stand up for the TRUTH in my family, friends, Chapel, and society.

TO BE CLEAR, from the SSPX year 2000 Rome pilgrimage up to April 2012, there was no fore warnings from the pulpits, no leaked letters, no explosions. It was after the letters of April 14, 2012 that *explosions* happened, and continues on, with denial, back peddling bunker buster cluster bombs. This very revelation obliged many people all over the world to start "digging" in the years past for anything else; to now discover, there have been many "subtle" things going on under the radar of our Trust; that is what I am saying -that is a betrayal.

So I, and many others, do appreciate the many people who add information in whatever medium there is, as "small" of a titbit that one may think it is; it then "clicks" a bell with others, which then fills a "slot" in the overall puzzle.

Unity is one of the marks of a true Catholic. In our Lord, we need to beat this beast...!

Thank God for the good resistance Priests and Bishop Williamson, as good shepherds, they have risked there "livelihood" to come out and warn us sheep...and I, with many of my friends, actively fight along side of them.

Viva Cristo Rey!!!

stgobnait · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2012, 04:58:05 PM »

sensus fide......... you just know.................... what you dont 'know'...............

John Grace · « **Reply #35 on:** December 31, 2012, 08:25:42 AM »

Quote from: Machabees

Quote from: John Grace
Machabees

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And we faithful, all of these years, did not know about it!!! SUCH A BETRAYAL…OF THE FAITH…AND OF MY TRUST!

Whilst a betrayal yes, I can't agree with you that faithful and priests didn't know. Even 'Oblationem' a Youtube user stated if only people had protested more. You can never claim people didn't know. The rosary crusades were distraction crusades.

I don't accept that folk didn't know. Whilst this new SSPX will return home to Rome, 2013 will see the resistance continue. Positive news of a new seminary proposed, funds being raised, new chapels being set up, new websites etc etc.

John Grace, you are not reading the context correctly, as with, you are jumping to long conclusions on what I have written.

In reading some of your other posts, I understand your basis of practical knowledge is in the Irish (Ireland) district which you, rightly so, speak fond of. So in your district, are you saying that YOU knew all along, since the year 2000, of these SECRETE happenings of Bishop Fellay and his inner circle -that wasn't revealed to the world until April 14, 2012 in the Bishop's letters? Of course there are some particulars that were sensed in seeing a "tip" of something. However, as I said in my posts, it is in the Bishop's letters on how I personally found out what is really going on under the "tip", as so with many other people and SSPX priests themselves; ever since, I have been very active to stand up for the TRUTH in my family, friends, Chapel, and society.

TO BE CLEAR, from the SSPX year 2000 Rome pilgrimage up to April 2012, there was no fore warnings from the pulpits, no leaked letters, no explosions. It was after the letters of April 14, 2012 that *explosions* happened, and continues on, with denial, back peddling bunker buster cluster bombs. This very revelation obliged many people all over the world to start "digging" in the years past for anything else; to now discover, there have been many "subtle" things going on under the radar of our Trust; that is what I am saying -that is a betrayal.

So I, and many others, do appreciate the many people who add information in whatever medium there is, as "small" of a titbit that one may think it is; it then "clicks" a bell with others, which then fills a "slot" in the overall puzzle.

Unity is one of the marks of a true Catholic. In our Lord, we need to beat this beast...!

Thank God for the good resistance Priests and Bishop Williamson, as good shepherds, they have risked there "livelihood" to come out and warn us sheep...and I, with many of my friends, actively fight along side of them.

Viva Cristo Rey!!!

I'm not jumping to any conclusions and whilst I take on board your point about people 'digging' for snippets, realising something is wrong etc etc, I don't accept that people didn't know.

Roland Deschain · « **Reply #36 on:** December 31, 2012, 09:11:32 AM »

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Just to note: the calendar says nothing about Saint Benedict Press as its present format predates the change in management.

Of related interest, you might find this FREE calendar useful.

This is fantastic. Thank you very much for posting.

Mea Culpa · « **Reply #37 on:** December 31, 2012, 10:03:18 AM »

This one isn't free, but is $14 with s&h. These calendars are made by the nuns at the Carmelite monastery.

http://www.servi.org/liturgical-calendar-2013-order-page

ora pro nobis 2 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 06, 2013, 12:03:38 PM »

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Do you have older Angelus Press calendars to compare with before you came up with such ideas?

We are talking about SSPX calendars. Do you have SSPX calenders going back decades?

Angelus Press is one of the official publishing arms of the SSPX! Let me try to dig back my library for older calendars that I bought from the SSPX chapel.
Ok, I found the calendars going back from 2012 to 2004, and the changes where they started to list the Requirements for Penitential Days Under Present Church Law was in the 2007 Calendar. Where before it took one page to give the information on Fast and Abstinence , since 2007 it takes two pages because of all of the "present Church law" additions.

I found the same thing. I have various Angelus Press calendars as far back as 1993, up to 2012. (not every year) From 1993 until 2006, they have the same page on fasting and abstinence. bowler is right; it's in the 2007 calendar they changed, and increased to 2 pages. Also, they used to always just include a fish or half-fish according to the Traditional rules. Now they have full solid fish, half solid fish, empty fish, you name it, every kind of fish in the sea, so you need a cheat-sheet to figure out which rules you're supposed to be following.