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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Matthew on October 29, 2012, 01:19:52 PM
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Is This Operation ѕυιcιdє?
This needs to be spread *far and wide* within the SSPX.
It is very important that word about this PDF gets spread. Please send this on to your family and friends by e-mail, phone call, and in-person word of mouth. If you can print out a few copies and give them to friends at your chapel, please do!
This is a real bombshell!
Hot off the presses, too -- the e-book was published October 29, 2012.
http://IsThisOperationѕυιcιdє.wordpress.com/
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I have dial up. But I can view the title of topics and I totally agree.
The bishops and cardinals are not friends of tradition.
Bye, going to contact my friends until we lose power...
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Looks like I'm gonna need more coffee. This is going to take awhile. :reading:
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Would it be wrong, albeit cowardly, to send this to the priests I know without a return address?
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Would it be wrong, albeit cowardly, to send this to the priests I know without a return address?
No, it would not.
Anyone who feels it necessary to stay anonymous, go ahead. The important thing is to help WAKE PEOPLE UP and this is a great resource to help to that end.
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I have dial up. But I can view the title of topics and I totally agree.
The bishops and cardinals are not friends of tradition.
Bye, going to contact my friends until we lose power...
1.3 MB wouldn't take forever, even on dial-up. It's worth downloading for a half hour or whatever it takes.
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A great article. To follow up on 1st Mansion Tenant's suggestion, I may spend a couple of bucks and send this to as many of the SSPX Priory's as possible!
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For those who haven't printed out large PDFs before --
You can tell Adobe Reader (etc.) to print TWO PAGES PER SHEET so you don't waste as much paper. You can also print on both sides of the paper (duplex printing) if your printer supports it.
If you haven't switched to laser printers yet, you should. I can print thousands of docuмents for about $22. (Using a generic toner cartridge)
Inkjet printers are about $30 at the store, and they come free with every computer you buy, but the ink cartridges cost about $35 each! And each cartridge is only good for about 200 docuмents. Maybe 250 if you don't have much text on the page.
I bought a really nice laser printer a year ago for $290. They're not too expensive at all. You save so much on the ink...
Here's one very similar to mine. $242 with free shipping.
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They have a fancy downloader on the website. It worked for me, but I could see it not working for others.
Just go to the original post in this thread, and click the download link there.
If it doesn't work there, it's your Internet that's the problem :)
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I have dial up. But I can view the title of topics and I totally agree.
The bishops and cardinals are not friends of tradition.
Bye, going to contact my friends until we lose power...
I have dial up internet as well. The file is about 1.3 MB and took me 11 minutes to download.
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Wow! This looks wonderful. Now if I can find the time to read it.
:applause:
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I'd make it a "sticky" post, but a lot of people's eyes automatically skip over those when they read over the topic list.
I did one better -- I made it a super-sticky post as part of this website's header -- right below the logo.
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I'd make it a "sticky" post, but a lot of people's eyes automatically skip over those when they read over the topic list.
I did one better -- I made it a super-sticky post as part of this website's header -- right below the logo.
A wise move. You are right; my eyes totally skip over the stickies. We could also just keep bumping this.
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I don't think Fisheaters or Ignis Ardens are offering this PDF yet.
They don't even have a link to the site or the PDF.
Can someone try to post it on those sites?
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I don't think Fisheaters or Ignis Ardens are offering this PDF yet.
They don't even have a link to the site or the PDF.
Can someone try to post it on those sites?
I can post it.
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Thanks for posting it -- the more people read this, the better!
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Thanks for posting it -- the more people read this, the better!
I have a question, Matthew:
If you would like to have this docuмent identifiable and you would like to have as
many readers see that it's available, etc., why are you not identifying it by name?
The 'super sticky below the header' says "Also: A Must-Read for All Members (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Awesome-resource-someone-has-done-it)!
Not only that, this thread is titled, "Awesome resource - someone has done it!"
And if you look at the title of the address linked to the "A Must-Read..." you see it
is the same: "awesome-resource-someone-has-done-it" - and anyone would say:
What's up? Must read what? All Members must read the forum rules? Someone has
done what? What kind of resource? Why is it 'awesome'? Why is it a 'resource'?
All of these questions should be answered in a well-chosen title and a well-labeled
'super sticky.' And since they're not so answered, it should come as no surprise
that lots of readers are not seeing the link or using it. It's not a headline. It's not
a good ad. It does not 'sell copy.'
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Agreed, red font, larger, and clearer explanation via title.
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The thread isn't doing THAT bad -- 1580 views in 1.5 days.
I improved the appearance/wording in the header.
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how many pages should I have total?
197
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The thread isn't doing THAT bad -- 1580 views in 1.5 days.
I improved the appearance/wording in the header.
Thanks! And 74 downloads in two days isn't bad either, I suppose.
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Fuzzy grammar and less-than-stellar reasoning notwithstanding, it is helpful
that this 'resource' touches on some facts of recent history, i.e., things you
won't hear at your local SSPX Mass center - during a sermon or even in the
vestibule for that matter! (But perhaps in the parking lot!) – For example,
regarding the so-called unity touted by +Fellay, loudly, as he stood on the
Grave of the Founder where it is carved in stone, "TRADIDI QUOD ET ACCEPI"
– "For I delivered unto you first of all, which I also received" (I Cor. xv. 3),
what kind of 'unity' is it, in fact? Is it not merely an appearance of unity?
But to a Modernist, appearances are everything, for 'reality is in the mind,' and
therefore, following blindly where the false principle leads us like Fr. Laisney
follows his superior-of-the-moment blindly (which see), we are led to believe
that there is 'unity,' even if it only seems to be 'unity' because the leader-
of-the-moment says so......................
From 'page 10':
26. We should consider what the devil's strategy might be in the year 2012. It seems to me that the powers of darkness would be seeking to cause dissension and disunity and would be seeking to introduce error into the Society or the Society into error. It seems to me that if we acknowledge that the Conciliar Church is modern and liberal and infected with error then we would have to acknowledge that the enemy's purpose would appear to be furthered if the Society can be made part of that Conciliar Church.
27. The idea that the Conciliar Church or Rome would or could take and keep the society "as we are" is a dream or a fairy tale (tragic fairy tale). If Rome does not convert to tradition then Rome continues its liberal modernist religion and traditional Catholicism is unacceptable to that Rome. I note that the possibility that a traditional Catholic may criticise Rome does not mean that traditional Catholicism is acceptable to Rome. It only means that criticism may be acceptable to Rome, noting that Martin Luther is "acceptable" and noting that other religions or even atheism is "acceptable" to Rome -8. If the Society cannot convert Rome when it is outside and not subject to Rome's bishops how possibly can the Society convert Rome after an "agreement" is signed and the Society is subject to modern Rome? The only "side" that should want an agreement is the side of the Conciliar Church, the side of liberalism. Rome's only purpose (and it has admitted it) in entering into any agreement is to convert the Society to the ways of the Conciliar Church.
28. In the book "Archbishop Lefebvre and the Vatican" Father Laisney adds the following commentary after a copy of the Archbishop's declaration in 1974 (refer page 11):
…When the Pope returns to the spirit of St. Paul, there will be no need of a "Protocol" nor even the lifting of any penalty. He will see that all these were but a persecution waged by the worshippers of "man making himself God," against the adorers of "God Who made Himself man."…
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8 In September 23, 2011, Pope Benedict praised Martin Luther and in October 2011, the Pope participated in a gathering at Assisi where not only were all sorts of religions gathered together, but also atheists who were able to express, not their faith of course, but their point of view regarding the faith.
The author states that his purpose is not to draw conclusions or to judge the
intentions of those whom he quotes. However, it appears inescapable that this
quote of Fr. Laisney compared to his more recent writings shows Fr. Laisney up
for the image he makes of himself: eager to scamper up to the service of
whomever it currently happens to be who is leading him - IOW a most extreme
exponent of false obedience.
To carry this lesson one step further, how would one then expect Fr. Laisney
(or for that matter, any of the other liberal clerics like him in the SSPX!) to act
once a 'deal' is agreed upon and he (or they!) become subject to the local
Ordinary, who will NO DOUBT issue most startling demands upon him (or them!)
such that their 'obedience' requires that they mirror any of the other Novordien
wackos currently afoot? He (they!) are most eager to perform unthinking and
even ideologically inconsistent acts under false obedience, so why would they
not do any of the things that you see going on at your local Novordien
parishes? – Things like liturgical dancers, Baptism by immersion, First-
Holy-Communion-in-the-hand, standing during the Consecration,
'concelebration,' or, perhaps even turning around at the moment before he starts
Mass and asking the congregation to pray for the Acolyte present to serve him,
because it's his anniversary today (as he physically pats with his right hand the
visibly uneasy Acolyte on his right shoulder as a gesture of his 'pastoral care' like
any good Freemason! would do!)?
Why not? What would be holding him (them!) back? After all, there has been
a 'regularization,' and we must be 'obedient.'
Coming soon, to a theater near you!
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LAST CALL --
I'm about to remove this thread from its prominent position on the header of the site, so if you haven't downloaded the PDF yet, please do!
This thread isn't going anywhere, but it's going to "scroll off". I had this thread advertised in the actual header of the forum (near the top of every page) for months now.
If you haven't downloaded it yet, you probably aren't going to :)
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I for one wish you'd leave it there, Matthew. The more the Society does the more people will want to know what's going on. It's a slow start for the Resistance but we're getting more people interested all the time. It's very easy to refer them to your website and there at the top is what they need to read without going through threads trying to piece everything together. As you said, this thread will get buried.
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Well, if we need an "intro" thread we might want to pick something else.
Seraphim started a thread with all kinds of docuмents -- that might be a better choice.
His thread even included the PDF "Is this Operation ѕυιcιdє?"
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Just an FYI.
If you print off this book take it to Kinkos/FedEx, and they will spiral bind it for you for 5 measly bucks! It's totally worth it. They put a vinyl cover on each side, clear on the front, and black on the back. It's so nice.
$5? Really? DO IT! Don't let it get ruined. It's absolutely fantastic!
(http://images.fedex.com/images/us/office/nexgen09/binding-finishing/coil-binding.jpg)
Look at how neat that is! This is what I did with mine. I even printed out the footnotes and had it bound separately.
DO THIS! It's cheap and simple!
http://www.fedex.com/us/office/binding-finishing-laminating.html
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We received a copy of the book at the 2012 Family Conference in Kentucky with the commitment to make more copies and pass them on. The plan was to give a copy to each family at the conference; however, it didn't work out. We took it to Staples and made 5 more copies and gave them to different families to read and pass on in our SSPX chapel.
Everyone who attended the conference; make your copies and pass them around!
:applause:
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I just finished the reading of the book which shows proof of AB Lefebvre's clarity of thought in a storm and strength in the Battle.
Note the coments made by +Fellay in September, 1997 - 15 years ago.
Thank you for the presentation . . . would love to have a copy.
Tantum Aude.