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Catholic Living in the Modern World / Re: Cushion for kneeling?
« Last post by FarmerWife on August 24, 2025, 10:43:25 AM »
My husband wears knee pads when he has to do manual labour. Otherwise, it would cause damage over time if he just were to kneel on the hard floor. And he was in a car accident prior, so his knees are not in the best shape and he’s in his 30s. You can look at volleyball knee pads too, they’re very soft. 
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Art and Literature for Catholics / Re: Mel Gibson's sequel
« Last post by Incredulous on August 24, 2025, 09:51:23 AM »


If one wants to try and gauge why Catholic tradition is in such a mess, it is because the majority of Trads believe the imagery projected from Hollywood media, including that Mel Gibson, with his Mossad bodyguard, is the icon of Catholic militancy.

Pray more Rosaries asking for better discernment.
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: NeoSSPX Says Mass in Modernist Rome
« Last post by Incredulous on August 24, 2025, 09:43:15 AM »
If the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?

Hmm... 1975?   I'm sure there's record of +ABL's connected insider "person" who booked the Mass time for the SSPX.


Otherwise, are you implying the jew-satanist, homo pope, Paul VI approved of +ABL's TLM in the Basilica?


     


Another point about these TLM's offered on altars where the "The Great Sacrilege" desecration has occurred.

Such de-sacralized altars need to be re-consecrated.



I'm guessing your answer is?   "I don't want to go there."



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SSPX Resistance News / Re: NeoSSPX Says Mass in Modernist Rome
« Last post by trento on August 24, 2025, 09:17:18 AM »
I had read this and I didn't do my research...so you are right...sorrrry
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https://www.pillarcatholic.com/p/is-the-sspx-pilgrimage-an-official

What has SSPX said about it?

The SSPX announced the pilgrimage in December 2024, just before the Jubilee Year officially opened.

In a letter sent to friends and benefactors, U.S. district superior Fr. John Fullerton noted that 2025 marks the 50th anniversary of a pilgrimage that SSPX founder Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre led during the 1975 Holy Year, only five years after founding the Society.

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Is it true that he celebrated the Tridentine Mass sometime somewhere at the Vatican, during his protest pilgrimage?  The link has the ENTIRE article  like a diary...

Read the article and find out! Excerpt.
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https://www.sspxasia.com/Docuмents/Archbishop-Lefebvre/Apologia/Vol_one/Chapter_6.htm

The sermon which Mgr. Lefebvre preached in the Basilica of Maxentius on 25 May 1975 was published in The Remnant of 6 March 1976. It was entitled "The One True Religion."

The One True Religion

My dear brethren:

If there is one day on which the Church's liturgy affirms our Faith, that day is the Feast of the Blessed Trinity. This morning, in the breviary which the priest formerly had to recite, he had to add to the psalms of Prime the Creed of St. Athanasius. This is the creed which affirms clearly, serenely, but perfectly, what we are bound to believe (...)Indeed, all our faith is summed up in our belief in the Most Holy Trinity and in Our Lord Jesus Christ, God made Man. The whole of our Creed, which we shall sing in a few minutes, is focused, as it were, on the very person of Our Lord Jesus Christ. He it is who is our God, He our Savior; it is through Him that we shall enter Heaven. He is the door of the sheep-fold, He is the Way, the Truth, the Life. There is no other name on earth by which we may be saved: the Gospels tell us all this.

Therefore, when our Faith is being attacked from all sides we must hold steadfastly and firmly to it. We must never accept that there can be any compromise in the affirmation of our Faith. Herein, I think, (...) this tragic situation we are going through, lies in seeing that our Faith is no longer affirmed with certainty: that through a false ecuмenism we have, as it were, reached the point of putting all religions on the same footing, of granting what is called "equal rights" to all religions. This is a tragedy because it is all entirely contrary to the truth of the Church. We believe that Our Lord Jesus Christ is our God, our Savior, our Redeemer; we believe that the Catholic Church alone has the Truth, thus we draw the proper conclusions, by respecting in our personal lives the Religion which Our Lord Jesus Christ founded. (...)

He it is who has given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, He who died upon the Cross. Already on the day of the Last (...)thus making priests of those to whom He gave the power to consecrate the Eucharist. He did this by His own Will, His Will as God, because Jesus Christ is God; He has, thus, given us the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, which we love so much, which is our life, our hope, and our salvation. This Sacrifice of Calvary cannot be transformed, the Sacrifice of the Last Supper cannot be transformed - for there was a Sacrifice at the Last Supper - we cannot transform this Sacrifice into a simple commemorative meal, a simple repast at which a memory is recalled, this is not possible. To do such a thing would be to destroy the whole of our Religion, to destroy the most precious thing which Our Lord has given us here on earth, the immaculate( ...)
The Church is essentially priestly because she offers the redemptive Sacrifice which Our Lord made on Calvary, and which she renews upon our altars. For a true Catholic, one who is truly faithful to Our Lord Jesus Christ, anything which touches what He Himself established moves him to the very depths of his heart, for he loves it as the apple of his eye. So, if it comes, in any way, to the point of destroying from within what Our Lord Jesus Christ gave to us as the source of life, as the source of grace, then we suffer, we suffer dreadfully, and we demand absolutely that this spring, this fountain of life, this fountain of eternal life, this fountain of Grace be preserved for us whole and entire.

And if such is true of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, it is also true of the Sacraments. It is not possible to make any considerable changes in the Sacraments without destroying them, without running the risk of rendering them invalid, and consequently without running the risk of drying up the grace, the supernatural and eternal life which they bring to us. It is again Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who established the Sacraments; it is not for us, we are not the masters of the Sacraments: even the Sovereign Pontiff cannot change them. Without doubt he can make changes in the rites, in what is accidental in any Sacrament; but no Sovereign Pontiff can change the substance of a Sacrament, for that was established by Our Lord Jesus Christ. It is Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself who took such care in the founding of our holy Religion, Who left us directions as to what we must do, Who gave Himself to us in the Holy Eucharist through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. What more could we ask? What other religion can lay claim to possess such a thing? And why? Because the only true religion is that of the Catholic Church.

This is a matter of fundamental importance, fundamental for our behavior, fundamental for our religion, and fundamental also for the way we should behave towards those people who do not believe in our holy Religion. This is extremely important, because it is precisely towards those who do not believe, those who do not have our Faith, that we must have immense charity, the true charity. We must not deceive them by telling them that their religion is as good as ours - that is a lie, that is selfishness, that is not true charity. If we consider what profound riches have been given to us in this Religion of ours, then we should have the desire to make it known to others, and share these riches and not say to them: "But you already have all you need! There is no point in your joining us, your religion is as good as ours." See how this matter is one of paramount importance, for it is precisely such false ecuмenism which makes the adherents of all the other religions believe that they have certain means of salvation. Now this is false. Only the Catholic Religion, and only the Mystical Body of Christ, possesses the means of salvation. We cannot be saved without Jesus, and we cannot be saved without grace. "He who does not believe," said Our Lord, "will be condemned." We must believe in Our Lord Jesus Christ in order to be saved. "He who believes shall be saved; he who obeys My commandments shall have eternal life; he who eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood shall have eternal life." Here is what Our Lord taught us. Therefore, we should have a tremendous desire, a really tremendous desire, to communicate our Faith to others. And this is exactly what made the missionary spirit of the Church. If the strength, the certainty, of our faith is weakened, then the missionary spirit of the Church also diminishes, since it is no longer necessary to cross the seas, to cross the oceans, to go and preach the Gospel, for what is the good of it? Let us leave each man to his own religion, if that religion is going to save him.

Therefore, we must hold fast to our Faith, we must adhere strictly to its affirmation, and we must not accept this false ecuмenism which makes all religions into sister-religions of Christianity, for they are nothing of the kind. It is very important to state this nowadays, because it is precisely this false ecuмenism which had too much influence after the Council. False ecuмenism is the reason why the seminaries are empty. Why is this so? Why are there no more vocations for the missionary orders? Precisely because young men no longer feel the need to make the Truth known to the whole world. They no longer feel the need to give themselves completely to Our Lord Jesus Christ simply because Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only Truth, the only Way, the only Life. What attracts the young to preach the Gospel is that they know they have the Truth. If vocations are withering away, it is due to this false ecuмenism. How we suffer at the thought that, in certain countries, people speak of "eucharistic hospitality," of "inter-communion" - as if one could give the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ to those who do not believe in the Body and Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, consequently to those who do not adore the Holy Eucharist, because they do not believe in it! Without sacrilege, without blasphemy, the Body and Blood of Our Savior cannot be given to a person who denies His Real Presence in the Eucharist. On this point, therefore, we must have a firm and solid faith, a faith which does not compromise. This is entirely in keeping with the tradition of the Church.

Thus the martyrs believed who lie buried everywhere in this basilica, and in all the churches of Rome, who suffered here in this forum of Augustus, who lived among pagans for three centuries and were persecuted as soon as they were known to be Christians. They were thrown into prison...our thoughts turn to the Mamertine prison, so close to us here, where Peter and Paul were put in chains because of their faith: And shall we be afraid to affirm our faith? We would not in that case be the true descendants of the martyrs, the true descendants of those Christians who shed their blood for Our Lord Jesus Christ in affirmation of their faith in Him. They, too, could indeed have said, "But, since all religions are of equal value, if I burn a little incense before an idol, what does that matter? My life will be saved." But they preferred to die, they preferred to be thrown to the beasts in the Colosseum, quite close to us here. So many, many martyrs were thrown to the beasts, rather than offer incense to pagan gods!

So, may our presence here in Rome be an occasion for us to strengthen our faith, to have, if necessary, the souls of martyrs, the souls of witnesses (for a martyr is a witness), the souls of witnesses of Our Lord Jesus Christ, witnesses of the Church. Here is what I wish you, my most dear brethren, and in this we must be unflinching, whatever happens. We must never agree to diminish our faith; and if by misfortune it were to happen that those who ought to defend our Faith came to tell us to lessen or diminish it, then we must say: "NO." Saint Paul put this very well: "Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema." Well, that, I think, sums up clearly what I wanted to say to you, so that when you return to your homes you may have the courage, the strength, despite difficulties, despite trials, to remain true to your Faith, come what may,  We must think on these things, (...)  because it is what Our Lord told us: "If we do not believe, we shall be condemned."
If the 1975 jubilee pilgrimage was a protest and done without Rome's knowledge, would ABL be allowed to celebrated Mass at a Roman basilica?
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Sounds like the Google or Microsoft of its day, mutatis mutandis.
:jester: https://youtu.be/_BhWpckltIw?si=RGnWg-GNori0vTeP :laugh1: ✏️ 📖 
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Catholic Living in the Modern World / Re: Bad news for Cassini
« Last post by Jonah on August 24, 2025, 04:21:01 AM »
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by Benedikt on August 24, 2025, 01:51:57 AM »
Quote from: Plenus Venter 2025-08-23, 11:46:06 PM
If that is the case, you would never have followed the Archbishop before 1988. You would have been a home-aloner way back, perhaps following the Abbe de Nantes from afar? Then where would you be now?...

The Second Vatican Council was from 1962-25. The Society of St Pius X was erected in 1970.

What the Neo-SSPX has done in making deals with modernist Rome is gravely imprudent and will most likely have dire consequences, some of which we are seeing already with the acceptance of doubtful sacraments, including doubtful priests.

But that does not translate into sin or a danger to the Faith for everyone who attends good Catholic SSPX Masses as you want to insist. Such rigidity and lack of pastoral prudence endangers souls in my opinion.

I am not opposed to souls taking the decision that it is best for them or their family not to attend the SSPX, but I am opposed to the view that it must be given the red light for all. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefebvre would have been of the same mind, as was Bishop Williamson.
Historical hypotheticals do not excuse present submission. The Neo-SSPX has publicly aligned itself with Conciliar Rome. Attending it is cooperation in error, not prudence, and objectively endangers the fight for the Faith. 

You can kick and scream all you want, it does not change the reality.

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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by Plenus Venter on August 24, 2025, 01:47:14 AM »
You have already picked the wrong side in this war.
The only side I have picked is the Resistance. Your logic is faulty!
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by Plenus Venter on August 24, 2025, 01:46:06 AM »
This is not a question of opinion or prudence. It is about fidelity. Archbishop Lefebvre founded the Society to resist the system. To attend priests who have bound themselves to that system is to abandon the very fight for which he gave his life.
If that is the case, you would never have followed the Archbishop before 1988. You would have been a home-aloner way back, perhaps following the Abbe de Nantes from afar? Then where would you be now?...

The Second Vatican Council was from 1962-25. The Society of St Pius X was erected in 1970.

What the Neo-SSPX has done in making deals with modernist Rome is gravely imprudent and will most likely have dire consequences, some of which we are seeing already with the acceptance of doubtful sacraments, including doubtful priests.

But that does not translate into sin or a danger to the Faith for everyone who attends good Catholic SSPX Masses as you want to insist. Such rigidity and lack of pastoral prudence endangers souls in my opinion. 

I am not opposed to souls taking the decision that it is best for them or their family not to attend the SSPX, but I am opposed to the view that it must be given the red light for all. I have no doubt that Archbishop Lefebvre would have been of the same mind, as was Bishop Williamson.
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by Benedikt on August 24, 2025, 01:31:42 AM »
Quote from: Plenus Venter 2025-08-23, 11:16:15 PMQuote from: Plenus Venter 2025-08-23, 11:16:15 PM
Of course it is true that a bishop or priest is not doing everything necessary to defend and preserve the Faith if he is not alerting the faithful to the errors that threaten their Faith. That is why we resist. But to say that because of this omission, for which they will give an account, their Masses, sacraments and teaching do nothing to preserve the Faith is patently false. They obviously do nourish the faith, hope and charity of good souls and thus edify the Church.

As one of the faithful attending Mass at the SSPX I am not necessarily being silent, nor am I submitting in any way whatsoever to error. I am in a good position to alert priests and faithful to the change in direction, of which many are still unaware, with the ensuing dangers. It is not betraying anyone or anything. If I did not fulfill my Sunday obligation, however, I know beyond any doubt that for me, I would be betraying Our Lord and committing a mortal sin.

Barring a miracle, it seems likely that the SSPX will continue to slide into the arms of Conciliar Rome and that the silence of the Neo-SSPX could result in the greater number of SSPX Trads becoming modernist. But if this happens, how long will it take? It has certainly not happened in 13 years and to claim such would be a monstrous exaggeration. Will it take a few generations yet? Would all these souls be better off becoming home-aloners now? There is danger no matter what you do. It is important to know yourself and to know the fight for the Faith that we are engaged in, and to take into account the particular circuмstances that you and those dependent upon you find yourselves in.

Certainly, encourage souls to attend and support the Resistance, which is necessary to preserve the Faith as you rightly say. Certainly enlighten them to the new direction of the Neo-SSPX placing them on the slippery slide of liberalism. But stop pontificating when it comes to forbidding the faithful to attend truly Catholic sacraments. That was never the attitude of Archbishop Lefebvre, nor is it Catholic.

 

Attending the Neo-SSPX is not Resistance. It is a living contradiction, a surrender cloaked as struggle, fighting from within a society that has formally submitted to Conciliar Rome, which +Archbishop Lefebvre condemned without compromise. It places the society and the sacraments above the Faith itself, corrupting principle into betrayal. What may feel like prudence or fulfilling one’s obligation is in reality moral compromise.

Every Mass attended in this society trains souls to accept conciliar errors, silently aligning the faithful with Modernism. Even if the compromise is gradual, principle is timeless: submission is never excusable. Bishop Williamson in his clear days confirmed that those attending the Neo-SSPX risk losing the fight for the Faith. Attendance gives the illusion of opposing Modernism while actually cooperating with it. It endangers the spiritual battle and undermines the mission of true Resistance.

The reasons are exhaustive:

  • *Formal submission to Conciliar Rome – participation legitimizes a system that is anti-Catholic.
  • *Condemned “fight from within” – what +Lefebvre forbade.
  • *Placing the society and sacraments above the Faith – a direct inversion of moral order.
  • *Corruption of principle into prudence or betrayal – what feels right can be spiritually disastrous.
  • *Exposure to Modernist influence – even silent compromise shapes the faithful toward error.
  • *Endangerment of the spiritual battle – leads to losing the fight for the Faith.
  • *False sense of Resistance – attendance masquerades as opposition but is cooperation.
  • *Erosion over time – submission is betrayal regardless of speed or generations.


By the grace of God, true Resistance grows. Many will never stop fighting, holding the Faith above all.

You have picked the wrong side in this war.





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