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Offline josefamenendez

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Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
« on: October 16, 2024, 07:19:20 PM »
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    • I guess Trump thinks it’s ok to abuse children permanently by cutting off their genitals as long as the parents give consent

    My, the slippery slope!

    https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1846265815689318473/video/1
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    Offline Cera

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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #1 on: October 17, 2024, 01:09:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 16, 2024, 07:19:20 PM
    I guess Trump thinks "We need borders; we need fair elections. We don't want men playing in women's sports. We don't want transgender operations without parental consent. There's so many things, but 99.9% is common sense," Trump said.

    My, the slippery slope!

    https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1846265815689318473/video/1
    No. What Trump said was: "We need borders; we need fair elections. We don't want men playing in women's sports. We don't want transgender operations without parental consent. There's so many things, but 99.9% is common sense."

    An honest interpretation of this portion of the comment to which you object is that he added the words "without parental consent" to educate others who may not know how horrific the situation is. He clearly did not intend it to qualify his strong objection to child sɛҳuąƖ mutilation in any way.

    Only a person afflicted with TDS could possibly extract from his actual statement what you falsely claim he said. It's deceptive trickery to deliberatly RE-WORD an out-of-context statement in order to score points with your fellow echo-chamber pals so you can garner up-votes. Let the downvotes begin.

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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #2 on: October 17, 2024, 01:37:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on October 17, 2024, 01:09:22 PM
    No. What Trump said was: "We need borders; we need fair elections. We don't want men playing in women's sports. We don't want transgender operations without parental consent. There's so many things, but 99.9% is common sense."

    An honest interpretation of this portion of the comment to which you object is that he added the words "without parental consent" to educate others who may not know how horrific the situation is. He clearly did not intend it to qualify his strong objection to child sɛҳuąƖ mutilation in any way.

    Only a person afflicted with TDS could possibly extract from his actual statement what you falsely claim he said. It's deceptive trickery to deliberatly RE-WORD an out-of-context statement in order to score points with your fellow echo-chamber pals so you can garner up-votes. Let the downvotes begin.
    The post from the link: 

    What the heck is this?

    Trump says “We don’t want transgender operations without parental consent.”

    Excuse me?


    @JDVance
    , you need to have a talk with
    @realDonaldTrump
    .


    @TeamTrump
    , you too.

    Parents do not have the right to abuse their children, and childhood sex change surgeries are child abuse!

    12-year-olds are having their breasts cut off, WITH parental consent. Are you telling me Trump is okay with that?

    This is a dangerous cult, and parents are in it. Often, they’re the ones pushing this on their kids.

    Child abuse is not acceptable. This language is the furthest thing from ‘common sense.’
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #3 on: October 17, 2024, 01:39:33 PM »
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    • M1913, did you even read my post?
    Trump was taken waaay out of context.
    He did not say what he was alleged to have said.
    Here's the link:
    https://www.axios.com/local/chicago/2024/10/15/trump-economic-club-of-chicago
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #4 on: October 17, 2024, 02:00:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on October 17, 2024, 01:39:33 PM
    Trump was taken waaay out of context.
    He did not say what he was alleged to have said.

    Just trying to understand here...
    Taking a statement "out of context" in the normally understood sense would be something like:

    "The Bible says 'There is no God.'"
    "No, the full context is:  'The fool hath said in his heart: There is no God...'"  - Psalm 13:1
    The reason this is considered taking out of context is because the partial statement changes the meaning. 

    Trump said,
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    "We need borders; we need fair elections. We don't want men playing in women's sports. We don't want transgender operations without parental consent. There's so many things, but 99.9% is common sense."


    The key phrase in question is:  "We don't want transgender operations without parental consent."
    That sentence at least implies that transgender operations with parental consent would be okay.  It is not taking out of context, in the sense of changing the meaning, but drawing the normal conclusion based on the obvious implication.  If, however inadvertently, the sorry statement came out of my mouth, "We don't want transgender operations without parental consent.", I would immediately correct myself and say, "I mean, we don't want transgender operations, period."  or "We don't want transgender operations, with or without parental consent.""  If you know of a statement where Trump said he totally disapproves of transgender operations, at least of minors, whether the parents approve or not, please quote it.  But if you are just assuming he disapproves of all transgender operations, then you are the one putting words in his mouth.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #5 on: October 17, 2024, 02:29:18 PM »
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    • According to his platform, it states:

    Republicans Will End Left-wing Gender Insanity: We will keep men out of women’s sports, ban Taxpayer funding for sex change surgeries, and stop Taxpayer-funded Schools from promoting gender transition, reverse Biden’s radical rewrite of Title IX Education Regulations, and restore protections for women and girls

    This doesn't sound like he is okay with "transgender mutilation with parental consent"
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #6 on: October 17, 2024, 02:49:02 PM »
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    That sentence at least implies that transgender operations with parental consent would be okay. 
    No, it doesn't imply it's "ok".  It implies that a) the government can't control parents who decide to brainwash their child into getting a surgery.  Because b) the president isn't a dictator.  c) the medical community says it's "normal" for such a procedure to happen.  d) There is no law that prohibits unnecessary surgeries.


    Like it or not, you or I (or anyone) has the freedom to get any unnecessary surgeries we want to (plastic surgery is a huge business).  It's called free choice.  That's what America is built on, like it or not.  Catholic or not.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #7 on: October 17, 2024, 04:14:03 PM »
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    • So you are saying removing a child's genitals as long as the parents' give permission is like getting the kid a nose job?

    Transgender surgeries on anyone 18 and under should be against the law, and actually since it is such a harmful perversion should be illegal across the board.

    Let them go "back alley" if they must , but we should never give an iota of consent- even parental consent.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #8 on: October 17, 2024, 04:17:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 16, 2024, 07:19:20 PM
    I guess Trump thinks it’s ok to abuse children permanently by cutting off their genitals as long as the parents give consent

    My, the slippery slope!

    https://x.com/BillboardChris/status/1846265815689318473/video/1
    "We don't want transgender operations without parental consent"

    whaaaa???
    You don't think this means Trump allows it WITH parental consent??? Somehow you are good with that?

     I don't need Trump derangement syndrome to spot evil . It's pretty blatant.
     
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #9 on: October 17, 2024, 04:21:16 PM »
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    You don't think this means Trump allows it WITH parental consent??? Somehow you are good with that?
    :facepalm:  Trump can't allow it or disallow it.  He's not a dictator.  He's not a king.


    Some of you really need to take a Civics 101 class and refresh yourself on how a republican form of govt works.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #10 on: October 17, 2024, 04:23:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 17, 2024, 04:21:16 PM
    :facepalm:  Trump can't allow it or disallow it.  He's not a dictator.  He's not a king.


    Some of you really need to take a Civics 101 class and refresh yourself on how a republican form of govt works.
    He could sign as executive order and ban it for at least his time in office- but he won't. Not politically expedient. He won't even ban it for kids under 18 without parental consent- watch. This is all for show, trying to ride the fence on all the moral issues.
    Trump is as bad as Kamala, but he is a lot more entertaining.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #11 on: October 17, 2024, 04:36:34 PM »
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    • I don't understand,  you're blasting him for what he did NOT say?

    He clearly DIDN'T say he would approve it WITH parents consent.

    You're reaching for something that isn't there. 
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #12 on: October 17, 2024, 04:37:50 PM »
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    He could sign as executive order and ban it for at least his time in office
    Trump is not a king.  He can't just sign executive orders for any topic he chooses.  :facepalm:
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #13 on: October 17, 2024, 04:39:23 PM »
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    I don't understand,  you're blasting him for what he did NOT say?

    He clearly DIDN'T say he would approve it WITH parents consent
    Exactly.  The perfectionists can't reconcile their Faith with the fact that we don't live in a catholic country.  I wonder if any of them will ever grasp reality? 
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #14 on: October 17, 2024, 05:05:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 17, 2024, 04:39:23 PM
    Exactly.  The perfectionists can't reconcile their Faith with the fact that we don't live in a catholic country.  I wonder if any of them will ever grasp reality?
    It's no different with the idiot, snowflakes I  argue with in my circles or even in my family about what Trump DIDN'T say.

    This TDS ubiquitous everywhere,  even on this board. And I'm getting dumb sick of it.

    Look, I  have my issues with Trump,  and I  don't think we can vote our way out of this, but we have to try something  until we can't,  this election is too damn important to quit and do nothing. I  have children and grandchildren,  I  can't afford to sit this one out. And the Church says if we have to choose the " lesser" evil for the greater good, then thats the path we have to choose.  
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