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Online Gray2023

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Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2024, 06:41:56 AM »
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    • If you remove yourself from the system God ordained for you, then you cannot be a person God works through.

    Pushing the notion that you are sinning if you vote and then congratulating yourself for being the BEST Catholics is not taking your example from any Saint.  State your case and move on.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #46 on: October 20, 2024, 07:15:17 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 20, 2024, 01:09:50 AM
    I can't find where PAX said that?

    In any case, it's incorrect because Children are below the age of reason and thus it is obvious child abuse to groom them, then pump them with experimental drugs and horrifically mutilate them like that, diabolical, Trump and his team would absolutely be trying to put a stop to such madness and rightfully so, especially with those like RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, Tucker Carlson etc.

    Therefore, to condemn Trump for the speed and way this is achieved and omit the obvious alternative which is running in the opposite direction? What is that? Are you dumb? You can be frustrated, you can be discouraged, you can think they aren't going far enough... but to go the opposite direction, to have the alternative of Hαɾɾιs win, to condemn Trump while totally omitting the alternative of a Hαɾɾιs win who would spearhead all of this? If it's all the same anyway then who cares and why are you so passionate? If anything you'd say nothing and just mention it in passing because you don't care and you don't think it matters, but some posters are awfully passionate to have Trump lose and Hαɾɾιs win... which if they are on the same side as us as they claim... then that makes absolutely no sense at all.

    I can be passionate because I do think it will make a difference if Trump wins and I am Pro-Life anti Child Mutilation etc etc... but for you to be so passionate in condemning Trump or discouraging people and claiming to be on the same side as myself on these issues? That is simply not true. Those who push for the equation 'all or nothing' are doing so because they want you divided and conquered so you end up with nothing.

    "Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow." - Plato

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

    God Bless
    First page, post 7- but I'n nor here to do your homework for you. it wasn't hard to find if you look.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #47 on: October 20, 2024, 07:19:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on October 20, 2024, 06:41:56 AM
    If you remove yourself from the system God ordained for you, then you cannot be a person God works through.

    Pushing the notion that you are sinning if you vote and then congratulating yourself for being the BEST Catholics is not taking your example from any Saint.  State your case and move on.
    He didn't create nor ordain the current system of anti-christ and we always have free will and a choice to reject it. You are going to be easy prey with this attitude.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #48 on: October 20, 2024, 08:22:15 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 20, 2024, 07:15:17 AM
    First page, post 7- but I'm not here to do your homework for you. it wasn't hard to find if you look.

    Got it, the first part puts it into better context and is why I missed it the first time... Pax does make a point, since if one goes down that track it's only a stone throw away before they make the diabolical and false argument that not jabbing your kids is child abuse (ironically exactly the opposite with useless jabs with a long list of serious side effects) and then try to take them away over that. Better to just be off limits and not go there, besides, there are other ways to go about it, such as going after the medical 'professionals' and schools who propagandize this stuff and mutilate people with a mental illness, also reporting on all the side effects and lies, as one can never change their gender they can only mutilate themselves and take dangerous drugs to simply have the appearance of the opposite gender and when they eventually realize this fact then of course they become very depressed and suicidal.

    The point I made above with this irrational Trump bashing and while omitting the obvious alternative still stands IMO.

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #49 on: October 20, 2024, 08:43:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Valentine on October 20, 2024, 05:55:48 AM
    Rather than name the tribe of people behind

    Condemning a whole tribe of people with one broad brush now? Isn't that what some are doing to Gaza? Level it to the ground because of handful of guilty people, guilty by association? How are you any better now?

    Like I said before, if Emperor Nero wanted to bring those responsible for the Great Fire of Rome to justice or account, then he would try to find those responsible (probably himself) and not institute a general and indiscriminate persecution of Christians who were clearly scapegoated and proves that Nero had ulterior motives.

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #50 on: October 20, 2024, 02:16:21 PM »
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    In any case, it's incorrect because Children are below the age of reason and thus it is obvious child abuse to groom them, then pump them with experimental drugs and horrifically mutilate them like that,
    No child below the age of 7 is getting Trans surgeries.  That’s a straw man.  In the context of parental consent, a child is anyone under 18. 

    If any of you are dumb enough to support a law where the govt can tell parents what medical services (or not) they can provide for their children, then you’re destroying what little freedoms we have left.  The only reason the jab wasn’t mandated is because we have a little medical freedom left.

    If the govt can tell Linda Liberal that she can’t indoctrinate her child about LGBTQ, then it can tell you that you can’t teach your child about Catholicism.  Give the govt power to stop an “evil” and it will turn around and use that power to stop anything else it wants to. 

    You can’t legislate morality and you can’t stop free will from doing evil.  The best you can do is fight for limited govt.  because the larger govt gets, and the more cookie jars it’s allowed to get its hands into, the next thing you know, it runs the whole kitchen and you’re begging for food.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #51 on: October 20, 2024, 02:48:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 20, 2024, 07:19:39 AM
    He didn't create nor ordain the current system of anti-christ and we always have free will and a choice to reject it. You are going to be easy prey with this attitude.
    I am with God, so I won't be easy prey.  Read revelations.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #52 on: October 20, 2024, 03:01:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Gray2023 on October 20, 2024, 02:48:25 PM
    I am with God, so I won't be easy prey.  Read revelations.
    yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #53 on: October 20, 2024, 03:13:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on October 20, 2024, 08:43:01 AM
    Condemning a whole tribe of people with one broad brush now? Isn't that what some are doing to Gaza? Level it to the ground because of handful of guilty people, guilty by association? How are you any better now?

    Like I said before, if Emperor Nero wanted to bring those responsible for the Great Fire of Rome to justice or account, then he would try to find those responsible (probably himself) and not institute a general and indiscriminate persecution of Christians who were clearly scapegoated and proves that Nero had ulterior motives.

    "For the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."
    If you took a child to Disneyland and asked him who was in charge he would probably answer Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. Similarly, there are terminally naive people like Josh here who have a juvenile's understanding of how the world actually works. I could present him with so many names of the people who control pornography, the NGOs orchestrating the border invasion here and in Europe, the financiers of communism, the banksters at the Fed, the feminist leaders, etc. that it would read like a Tel Aviv phonebook. And he would shriek, "oh but it's not all jews!" 
    I apologize for the tone in any of my previous posts. I was under the misapprehension that anyone who found their way to this forum already figured out the JQ. Apparently not, trads are about as dim as your average evangelical when it comes to politics. 
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #54 on: October 20, 2024, 03:18:14 PM »
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    • "If any of you are dumb enough to support a law where the govt can tell parents what medical services (or not) they can provide for their children, then you’re destroying what little freedoms we have left.  The only reason the jab wasn’t mandated is because we have a little medical freedom left."

    What? So there should be no restrictions on any potentially harmful or questionable treatments and surgeries for minors as long as the parent gives permission? 

    How about an orchiectomy to make sure that young man keeps singing soprano? (Daddy wants him in the choir.)
    A 13 year old pregnancy surrogate with mommy's permission?
    How about IVF for an 11 year old because Mom and Dad want more kids but can't have them, so their daughter carrying is the next best thing?
    Breast implants for Johnny at 12 because you can't start early enough?
    Time for your abortion at 14- mommy said so.

    Aren't children allowed any protections anymore?
    Some thing just need to be illegal, period.
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    Re: Trump ok with Transgender mutilation for kids with parental consent
    « Reply #55 on: October 20, 2024, 05:00:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on October 20, 2024, 03:01:13 PM
    yea, the hour cometh, that whosoever killeth you, will think that he doth a service to God.
    I believe this is what is being set up against the few faithful Catholics.

    The conservative right, pro-Trump and co-exist new agers are being united in opposition to the far left, "deep state" and "pope" Francis. This unity is not dogmatic but naturalism and do goodism.
    Those of us standing firm on dogmas, such as, no salvation outside the Catholic Church, The Bessed Virgin Mary, no divorce/annulments, no birth control and no cohabiting before marriage will be labeled as divisive. 
    Most "conservatives" see themselves as saved and are already fine with those sins.  
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