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Offline epiphany

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #130 on: April 21, 2022, 08:54:05 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on April 21, 2022, 09:35:03 AM
I hold that pot has a worse reputation, more avoidance/mistrust, etc. than it deserves.

Meanwhile, man-made chemical drugs developed and produced by Big Pharma have *way* more respect and trust than they deserve.

If your mother or Grandma had a few bottles of Big Pharma wares on her counter, you wouldn't bat an eye. But if she had medicinal pot, it would be completely different.
Why is that? Totally irrational.

All the evidence points to the dangers of Big Pharma and great benefits from natural remedies, including medicinal pot.
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Offline epiphany

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #131 on: April 21, 2022, 08:57:25 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on April 21, 2022, 09:35:13 AM
That’s part of my argument:

The impairment of the faculties is significantly higher in 1-2 puffs of MJ, than in 1-2 beers (and therefore the argument they amount to the same level of impairment is false.  But that is precisely the argument some have made.

Note, however, the level of impairment is not the only cause of sinfulness (contrary to what you said above).
The is flatly false.

Like alcohol, impairment using MJ is different for each person. 

For example, a 6' 6" linebacker can typically handle a lot more alcohol than a 4'10" woman.

And, like alcohol, some people are immune to the "high" of MJ (MJ doesn't affect them).  I know I am.
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Offline epiphany

Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #132 on: April 21, 2022, 09:01:50 PM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on April 21, 2022, 09:58:58 AM
More to ponder with regards to the sin of scandal:

Would it be okay for a priest to roll a low dose joint at a social event?  Not to get high but just to relax and help with his anxiety and back pain?

How about nuns?

I was going to bring this up in the vulgar language thread as well.  If there is nothing wrong with vulgar language and it's a necessary evil to wake people up, shouldn't priests start to employ its use regularly?

And the nuns as well...
Yes.  It should be as acceptable as if they drank a glass of wine 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #133 on: April 21, 2022, 09:06:49 PM »
And, as I have said, the respective amounts required to cause impairment are practical considerations and not relevant to the morality.

There are tinctures available now that let you dose it to fractions of a milligram.  I don't buy that one puff (for a larger person) would cause the same effect as a couple glasses of beer for someone else.  Even for alcohol there's a huge variation in terms of both strengths (proofs or ABV) and how it effect individuals.  One person might be drunk from a single glass of champagne (I've seen that happen to some particularly sensitive individuals) while another can have a pint of whiskey and barely feel a buzz.  These are practical considerations and have nothing to do with the moral principles.

Given [whatever] amount of THC to cause the same degree of impariment as [whatever] amount of alcohol, what is the difference?  I see none.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #134 on: April 21, 2022, 09:14:34 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on April 21, 2022, 09:01:50 PM
Yes.  It should be as acceptable as if they drank a glass of wine

Currently, of course, it's not ... but that's due to the stigma attached to marijuana vs. alcohol, and that's why a lot of the posters here are getting so worked up and emotional about it.

One of the main reasons that marijuana was banned was because the earliest vehicle engines ran on hemp oil, and Jєωιѕн Rockefeller big oil had to suppress it so they could sell their oil.  Even now you can, with the right conversion kit, turn almost any diesel engine to bio-diesel (running on various vegetable oils).

Meanwhile, Big Pharma could put THC in pill form, add another ingredient or two, patent it, charge $400 per dose, and it's suddenly sanitized and acceptable.

People have been PROGRAMMED.

Do people know that both Pope Leo XIII and St. Pius X drank cocaine-laced wine?  Cocaine was not yet illegal.  Pope Leo XIII was particularly enthusiastic about it (brand name Vin Mariani), to the point that he awarded a Vatican medal to Angelo Mariani and allowed his likeness to be used in advertisements for it.  He credited it with the energy he had, reigning til the age of 93 and having written 88 encyclicals (of the 300 total ever written by popes).  I wish I could get my hands on some of that stuff, or the original Coca Cola.
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