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Offline Persto

Re: For better health
« Reply #105 on: February 19, 2025, 12:54:50 PM »
Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 19, 2025, 11:20:52 AM
Dietary fats cause weight gain. So counting calories and calorie restriction are not measures of good health. The only thing to count* is grams of fat in the food that you're considering eating.
People idiotically blame the sugar for causing them to get fat but it's the dietary fat in the same food causing the gain in weight.
Our bodies are designed by God to get energy to maintain our bodies from either one of 2 sources: glucose from carbs or ketones from fat. Babies are born in ketosis (using fat for energy), so God designed us that way from birth.  Ketosis (burning fat for energy)happens when we keep the carbs very low: 20 grams or less.  Carnivore/Keto is a very low carb way of eating that causes us to burn ketones for energy.  Contrary to what you are saying, the fat doesn't get stored, it is used to produce the energy all our cells need to function.  However, if you are trying to eat carbs and carnivore/keto at the same time the body will run on glucose from carbs, and if there is a surplus, the sugar & fat will get stored.

The carnivore/keto way of eating is very healing, because the body gets all the nutrients it needs from meat, eggs, and diary, and animal fat (that are lacking in plant sources) and once you stop eating the things that are causing health issues, the body can release toxins and repair.  A lot of people are dealing with health issues that are a result of fruits and vegetables that are high in oxylates.  Before the 1970-80's people had a more balanced diet of meat and potatoes/or some other starch, and a small amount of vegetables. When the dietary guidelines were changed @ 1979 to reduce meat and diary, eggs, and animal fat, that is when the rates of heart disease and diabetes began to skyrocket.  Diabetes was not at all common before that- now about 1 in 3 people has diabetes or is pre-diabetic.  You don't get diabetes eating carnivore/keto, you find that it goes away.  (Even for diabetics on insulin)

The traditional diet of the Eskimos was carnivore and especially high fat. There were not any fat Eskimos, until the standard American diet (SAD) of high carbs and sugar were introduced.  They also started getting all the diseases that go along with that (SAD) diet.  You could say the same about the American Indians.  We are witnessing a terrible epidemic of obesity and disease that is unprecedented, with the processed foods that most people are eating, and the dietary guidelines of mainstream medicine & nutrition.  The people who are moving towards carnivore/keto are trying to eat defensively in these times we live in.  They experience freedom from addiction to sugar and carbs and real weight loss and healing.  There is also no counting calories,  but it is important to count protein and fat to make sure you are getting enough. 

We got out of the Novus Ordo system of fake Catholicism by the Grace of God, and an openness to seek the Truth.  It is the same journey in seeking the Truth of what to eat to maintain our bodies in health.  People who have found the answer in the carnivore/keto way of eating are on that path.

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Offline Persto

Re: For better health
« Reply #106 on: February 19, 2025, 01:00:14 PM »


Dr. Gary Fettke is a Tasmanian Orthopedic Surgeon and vocal proponent of nutrition being a major component of prevention and management of modern disease.

He continues to defend the right to free speech and the right to question traditional (last 50 years) beliefs for the benefit of the community.
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Offline jersey60

Re: For better health
« Reply #107 on: February 19, 2025, 01:47:29 PM »
Quote from: WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat on February 19, 2025, 11:54:05 AM
I already posted the panel of doctors.
The fat you eat is the fat you wear.
Go be fat on someone else's time.
You mean that vegan doctor? Funny
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: For better health
« Reply #108 on: February 19, 2025, 01:49:56 PM »
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Our bodies are designed by God to get energy to maintain our bodies from either one of 2 sources: glucose from carbs or ketones from fat. 
And the 3rd source:  protein.  But in the end, protein and fats get turned into glucose.  The body runs on glucose.  But each of the 3 types offer different nutritional values. 


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Babies are born in ketosis (using fat for energy), so God designed us that way from birth.
 Babies also are fat.  And have very little muscle.  They need the extra fat to stay warm, as a person with low muscle is susceptible to cold.


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Ketosis (burning fat for energy)happens when we keep the carbs very low: 20 grams or less.  Carnivore/Keto is a very low carb way of eating that causes us to burn ketones for energy. 
The fat gets turned into glucose and then used.


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Contrary to what you are saying, the fat doesn't get stored, it is used to produce the energy all our cells need to function.  
If you eat too much fat (this is where calories come in), you'll get fat on the keto diet.


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However, if you are trying to eat carbs and carnivore/keto at the same time the body will run on glucose from carbs, and if there is a surplus, the sugar & fat will get stored.
Yes.

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The carnivore/keto way of eating is very healing, because the body gets all the nutrients it needs from meat, eggs, and diary, and animal fat (that are lacking in plant sources) and once you stop eating the things that are causing health issues, the body can release toxins and repair. 
True.  But it's not the ONLY way of eating healthy.

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A lot of people are dealing with health issues that are a result of fruits and vegetables that are high in oxylates.  Before the 1970-80's people had a more balanced diet of meat and potatoes/or some other starch, and a small amount of vegetables. When the dietary guidelines were changed @ 1979 to reduce meat and diary, eggs, and animal fat, that is when the rates of heart disease and diabetes began to skyrocket.  Diabetes was not at all common before that- now about 1 in 3 people has diabetes or is pre-diabetic.  You don't get diabetes eating carnivore/keto, you find that it goes away.  (Even for diabetics on insulin)
A lot has changed since the 70s/80s.  Back in the 50s, people didn't eat as much meat as you think.  They did have healthy fats (mostly butter).

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The traditional diet of the Eskimos was carnivore and especially high fat. There were not any fat Eskimos, 
:laugh1:  Eskimos were fat.  They needed the extra fat on their bodies for the cold weather.

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until the standard American diet (SAD) of high carbs and sugar were introduced. 
 All Carbs aren't the enemy.  As you pointed out about the pre-70s/80s, people ate potatoes/starches.  Those are carbs.

Some carbs are bad.  The processed kind.  Corn Syrups were introduced in the 80s.  As well as they screwed with breads and wheat.  The Egyptians had all kinds of health problems after they introduced grains.

Fruits/veggie carbs are ok.  Grains/processed sugars are the problem.


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We got out of the Novus Ordo system of fake Catholicism by the Grace of God, and an openness to seek the Truth.  It is the same journey in seeking the Truth of what to eat to maintain our bodies in health.  People who have found the answer in the carnivore/keto way of eating are on that path.
I believe keto is a good diet to use.  But it's not the only way to health.  It's basically an "elimination diet" of wheat and bad carbs.

Lots of it depends on exercise level.  It's hard to exercise intensely on keto.  Good carbs are needed.  Paleo is basically meat + good carbs (i.e. fruits/veggies).
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Offline WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat

Re: For better health
« Reply #109 on: February 19, 2025, 03:41:33 PM »
Quote from: Persto on February 19, 2025, 01:00:14 PM
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Look, it's Maria Regina. :laugh1: She went into hiding in shame and mental distress after she realized her discipleship to Q Anon was a big mistake.

Btw, ketones are an inferior and inefficient source of fuel for cells. That's like putting WD-40 into a gas tank of a car. Sure, it might run for a little bit, but real gasoline is what operates a car efficiently.

WD-40 = keytones
gasoline = sugar
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