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Offline Matthew

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2018, 02:09:57 PM »
Just keep in mind that just because Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer says something, it doesn't make it true.
Unfortunately.
Sad, but true.

When your whole argumentation is convincing, but founded on a lie, then what?

You're right though, I don't want any Pfeiffer propaganda on my forum. His rhetoric is false more often than it's true. It's not worth confusing people or blackening the name of good priests and bishops fighting Modernism and carrying on the fight for Tradition with no compromise, like brave honorable warriors.

Thomas A. Nelson taught me in Catechism class something you might want to learn -- that it's absurd to consider a man who loves his wife, is a kind father to his children, pays his taxes, goes to Mass every Sunday, helps old ladies cross the street -- but he's a hit man for a living! That simply doesn't happen.

Our Lord had something similar to teach: judge a tree by its fruits. Men don't gather figs from thistles.

You're not going to have virtue anywhere and everywhere, fidelity to the Cross, to a priestly vocation, wisdom in so many things -- except for THIS MORTAL SIN OVER HERE. That just doesn't happen. There's a principle in Catholic moral theology -- "no one falls all the sudden."

St. Therese the Little Flower when she was alive, or anyone habitually avoiding mortal sin, isn't going to OOPS fall into a grave sin of theft or murder. There would be lukewarmness first, dereliction of duties, skipping prayers, etc. which would lead perhaps to a large fall.

It's the same with priests. They first stop praying so much. They stop saying their Breviary. They loose the taste for spiritual things. They start looking for consolations in creatures and created things. They start hating to wear the cassock -- and it's all downhill from there.

Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2018, 02:23:02 PM »
Just keep in mind that just because Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer says something, it doesn't make it true.
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When your whole argumentation is convincing, but founded on a lie, then what?
Yes. Like I said, I no longer respect or trust Father Pfeiffer. But I counter, just because Father Pfeiffer says something, it doesn't make it a lie. Since I have not offered my problems with Bishop Williamson you do not know if they are valid objections or ones based on lies. Bishop Williamson has made thousands of statements and has been a Bishop for thirty years, I am sure even you object to some of his deeds and some of his opinions as I do.


Offline Matthew

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2018, 02:30:14 PM »
Yes. Like I said, I no longer respect or trust Father Pfeiffer. But I counter, just because Father Pfeiffer says something, it doesn't make it a lie. Since I have not offered my problems with Bishop Williamson you do not know if they are valid objections or ones based on lies. Bishop Williamson has made thousands of statements and has been a Bishop for thirty years, I am sure even you object to some of his deeds and some of his opinions as I do.

Why don't you A) let God judge the man, B) give him every benefit of the doubt and C) turn a deaf ear when priests and bishops are being nit-picked by laymen or clerics?

They aren't perfect, they are human. They need our prayers and our charity.

You know, even if you're wrong God isn't going to judge you for giving the benefit of the doubt to a priest or bishop, rather than going on the attack. It isn't our responsibility to personally purify the clergy!

If only there were some benign explanation(s) for the lies, calumny, and other evils prevalent in Boston, KY! I would be the first to take refuge in them.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2018, 03:11:37 PM »
fkpagnanelli ... JUST SO HAPPENED to have a young, single daughter he wanted to give to CM, since they were both on the same page on religion.

:facepalm:

Re: Suscipe Domine Again
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2018, 04:16:02 PM »
I think SD posters are mainly "conservative" Novus Ordites (a la CAF), indulters, and SSPX.  It seems that it is a lot quieter over there in recent times.